The wee turd.

Obviously forms of Dementia such as Vascular, Lewy Bodies and Alzheimer's etc..are serious Mental Health conditions...I cared for people with these afflictions for several years...and know the signs and outcomes at first hand.

My mother didn't see my father for the 6 years he spent in tanks on the Deserts of Egypt and Libya....and she worked in an Ammunition Factory as a young teen...I asked her about her thoughts on Mental Health issues during that period..." Oh yes - plenty of that dear...but we just had to get on with things ".
She is still getting on with things after throwing off Covid in February ...at 97....

Fraser ...mental health ?... Very Doubtful...a very privileged and wealthy being ...more like an addiction to Fame, Money and Attention!

If...if.. it turns out that he has something of or akin to the above afflictions then obviously we would all feel for him and put aside any animosity previously hung on him ..basically we act on what we know.

Before joining this forum I rarely used the phrase 'don't suffer fools gladly'....but feel it necessary at times when people deliberately misinterpret posts...just to try and 'get on a perch above' whoever they consider their Nemesis or rival for attention.
 
We read recently of a tragic incident involving a footballer.

interesting article and things that go on with footballers that we don’t realise.

Not sure if has been on here before.


"Football is a very internal game and I have been working with some players now in the Championship for eight years. I would get recommendations and work with them one-by-one but once we started the podcast it just snowballed. More and more people started ringing me. I started to realise there is this big problem that nobody is talking about."

This is football's secret society. Zoom calls with a dozen players discussing their fears. Webinars of more than 40 professionals sharing their stories. Only by opening up with each other about these mental health issues is the depth of the issue coming to be understood.

There is the player at Norwich who has death anxiety. The veteran goalkeeper who was the life and soul of the dressing room but found himself dealing with suicidal thoughts on the commute home. The one at Hull who is so on edge that something as trivial as a dog owner not cleaning up their pet's mess on his morning walk would ruin his entire day.

"Imagine how he reacted when he made a mistake," says Blackburne.

There are the former Brentford team-mates who were each facing their own personal demons, unbeknownst to the other. One of them was drinking vodka alone every night. The pair only found out they were both going through similar struggles after opening up to Blackburne. "They were best friends and only lived down the road from each other."

It is all part of a culture that discourages speaking out.

"When it comes to the mental health side, nobody wants people to find out about what they are struggling with in case they are judged for it," he explains.

"What the players find is that the clubs do not support them enough. Some players have been dropped for admitting they had a problem. Football is the release for them.

"They have the belief that nobody knows how they feel."

https://www.skysports.com/football/...-epidemic-big-problem-nobody-is-talking-about
 
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It might well turn out yet that the Scottish player has mental health issues but that really doesn’t excuse the sulk that saw him walk away and admit that he could have kept us up. That was just an insult to the fans and in particular to Eddie who brought him on from a tubby kid to an international standard player. He knew full well what he was doing and what he was saying.
 
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My mother didn't see my father for the 6 years he spent in tanks on the Deserts of Egypt and Libya....<snip>.

6 years!

The second world war lasted for a month less than 6 years.
The Desert War, was basically 1940 to 1943; after El Alamein, after the Afrika Korps had been booted out of N. Africa followed by the invasion of Sicily, there was no need for tanks in Egypt and Libya.

My maternal Grandfather took part in that campaign, driving a tank, before a lengthy period of leave back in Blighty, whereupon he then took his tank ashore in Operation Overlord.

Your father spent six years in the desert?
You don't half spout some utter tosh!

Remember, there's only one rope on a ship, that's the bell rope. Everything else is a line or a sheet.
 
6 years!

The second world war lasted for a month less than 6 years.
The Desert War, was basically 1940 to 1943; after El Alamein, after the Afrika Korps had been booted out of N. Africa followed by the invasion of Sicily, there was no need for tanks in Egypt and Libya.

My maternal Grandfather took part in that campaign, driving a tank, before a lengthy period of leave back in Blighty, whereupon he then took his tank ashore in Operation Overlord.

Your father spent six years in the desert?
You don't half spout some utter tosh!

Remember, there's only one rope on a ship, that's the bell rope. Everything else is a line or a sheet.
You have that partly wrong mate...my father came home on a troop ship in 44 to Liverpool Hospital with malaria....he went out to Egypt in 38 , stationed there before the War...did Alemein and was also involved at Sicily and Crete operations ( but not on tanks..)
There's no way I'd talk utter tosh about my fathers War service.
BTW..well done to your Grandfather for his War service..all heroes!
As for the ropes thing...yeah your bang on with that !
 
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You have that partly wrong mate...my father came home on a troop ship in 44 to Liverpool Hospital with malaria....he went out to Egypt in 38 , stationed there before the War...did Alemein and was also involved at Sicily and Crete operations ( but not on tanks..)
There's no way I'd talk utter tosh about my fathers War service.
BTW..well done to your Grandfather for his War service..all heroes!
As for the ropes thing...yeah your bang on with that !

What was his unit?
 
What was his unit?

Far as I remember 11 hussars /8th Army for the Tank driving and i think some attachments earlier around Alexandria and Libya to other units.
Originally he was trained on horses in 36/37 at Tidworth Wiltshire and Catterick in Yorkshire...then tanks at Bovington.
He ended up in 44/45 after recovering from malaria...driving some Colonel around an Army camp near Brighton..no longer fit for front line service.
 
Far as I remember 11 hussars /8th Army for the Tank driving and i think some attachments earlier around Alexandria and Libya to other units.
Originally he was trained on horses in 36/37 at Tidworth Wiltshire and Catterick in Yorkshire...then tanks at Bovington.
He ended up in 44/45 after recovering from malaria...driving some Colonel around an Army camp near Brighton..no longer fit for front line service.

11th Hussars, were gone by the time WW2 kicked off.

https://www.britishmilitaryhistory....tes/124/2020/07/British-Troops-Egypt-1937.pdf

https://www.britishmilitaryhistory....tes/124/2020/07/British-Troops-Egypt-1939.pdf

The British military didn't keep personnel on station for years on end. Everybody got leave and units were constantly rotated.

My uncle, 2nd East Surreys (remains in CWG at Bournemouth North Cemetery) was rotated from India in '38, sent over to the continent with the BEF and evacuated from Dunkirk in '40, then went on extended leave, firstly at Axminster, then Westbourne (where he was blown to pieces by a German aerial bomb in 1940)
His unit, took no active part in fighting, until Operation Torch.

My grandfather, after Operation Torch, had extended leave in England, until Operation Overlord.

Why would your father not see your mother for 6 years? Even another uncle, who was in Burma and then a Japanese POW camp, spent fewer than 6 years, not seeing his family.
 
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11th Hussars, were gone by the time WW2 kicked off.

https://www.britishmilitaryhistory....tes/124/2020/07/British-Troops-Egypt-1937.pdf

https://www.britishmilitaryhistory....tes/124/2020/07/British-Troops-Egypt-1939.pdf

The British military didn't keep personnel on station for years on end. Everybody got leave and units were constantly rotated.

My uncle, 2nd East Surreys (remains in CWG at Bournemouth North Cemetery) was rotated from India in '38, sent over to the continent with the BEF and evacuated from Dunkirk in '40, then went on extended leave, firstly at Axminster, then Westbourne (where he was blown to pieces by a German aerial bomb in 1940)
His unit, took no active part in fighting, until Operation Torch.

My grandfather, after Operation Torch, had extended leave in England, until Operation Overlord.

Why would your father not see your mother for 6 years? Even another uncle, who was in Burma and then a Japanese POW camp, spent fewer than 6 years, not seeing his family.
The 11th hussars ended up in tanks, in the desert, moved on from horses as they would have been in ww1. My father didn't get his 5 medals sitting at home...he had 3 mates killed, blown to bits at Alemein..and was lucky to get only superficial injuries himself..He got several periods of leave in Cairo...and one short stay in hospital there .

..and yes they did get moved around, rotated. .he was unlucky getting sent to Egypt in 38 having just met my Mum and getting stuck there longer than normal due to the outbreak of war...he came back to Poole after demob in 45 and took up again with her in 46.. married her in 48.
I also had an uncle, mums brother, stuck in Italy in a Pow camp, for 2 or 3 years ..there are no mysteries...these things happened to those people...we have all the letters and photos, medals and documents at my brothers flat in Poole.
 

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