Non - Social care

We need to encourage People in Britain to come forward to do Care Work For our Olds..they are after all Ours... But for an adequate wage. - Not foreigners...
....or do we want our overseas friends to do absolutely f√cking everything perhaps...

With everyone else joining Furlough Rangers!
 
We need to encourage People in Britain to come forward to do Care Work For our Olds..they are after all Ours... But for an adequate wage. - Not foreigners...
....or do we want our overseas friends to do absolutely f√cking everything perhaps...

With everyone else joining Furlough Rangers!

Maybe we could ask them to do the banal trolling as it's all getting a bit predictable now tbh.
 
Maybe we could ask them to do the banal trolling as it's all getting a bit predictable now tbh.

I wasn't posting about ' trolling'..but about Care Work .
Hey look ..tbh ..I don't even like or particularly enjoy Online Communication...so an interest in 'trolling'...
..is basically off any agenda I might have...

...my very early tetchy posts on here were in response to pendantic stuff from people picking up on spelling and grammar errors...and over- reacting to stuff.
So bugger it I thought..you want some ?
Here We Go then.....and here we are !
 
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That's the sort of decision governments are elected to make.

There is no magic number but there is a need to plan ahead and make more right than wrong decisions. The magic money tree found the funds for test and trace easily enough.
Perhaps that's because they put money aside "to mend that hole in the roof "..;)
 
Let's be absolutely clear though.

The Tories don't have anything like a 'plan for social care' as Johnson promised at the last election.

What they have is a plan to charge us all money. Which is totally not the same thing.

A real plan would join up care provision from the GP through Hospitals to Care homes so that we don't have the issues with bed blockers and lack of joined up thinking.

Anyone expecting to pump more money into a broken system and see it magically transformed is as dumb as Andrew Landsley.
Key point made. No plan visible and fully agree about the dislocated health and care organisations, both public and private.
 
Please be very careful about characterising Privately run care providers as money grabbers.

I run/own a day care facility. We chose to do that as the State provided facilities were not appropriate for our son so we set it up ourselves. Started with 5 clients 10 years ago, now have 60 clients and 77 staff.

We don't drive a Ferrari or charge clients for every little thing. The "Profit" we make goes to providing additional equipment for our clients (e.g. an ipad so that they can communicate) or even a pay rise for our hard pressed wonderful staff.
Being private gives us the autonomy to spend money on whatever our clients need without it being clawed back to go into the Public funding black hole.

Should the State provide care, absolutely.
Should it be well funded, absolutely.
Should "Big Business" (looking at you Amazon, Google, Apple, Serco, Rishi Sunak's billionaire in laws) pay more tax, abso-F*ckn-lutely.

But don't tar every private care provider with the Greedy Bast4rd brush.

And yes we will now have less to spend as our Employer NI bill will be going up, brilliant. Damn no super yacht for me then.
I worked as FD for a company in a very similar position. Residential and day care for young adults.

They didn't make a huge amount of money but what characterised the job was the annual contract discussions with local authorities who always wanted the job done better for cheaper.

Nobody was driving around in Ferraris but it seemed like the cqc thought we were.
 
Here we all go again, endlessly bickering about how many angels you can get on the head of a pin.



I've had decades of false promises from all the major parties about social care.

Finally somebody is actually going to do something

Right now I don't really give a stuff how it happens; no doubt the details will get argued about and the goalposts changed over the next few years/decades, but something is better than the empty rhetoric I've heard for years.

Johnson is a complete headcase and I have no idea how he's got this deal to the table, but as a nation we need to back it.


Cue everybody telling me just how unfair it all is.

Well I don't give a monkeys, there's a chance that social care will be properly funded after decades of unnecessary hardship and suffering.

I'm happy to toss some money into the pot for that to happen..

Just as long as Boris' mate don't rip us off.
 
Where do the profits from providing social care go?


Follow the money trail to find out who should be at the front of the queue to pay their fair share.
 
Here we all go again, endlessly bickering about how many angels you can get on the head of a pin.



I've had decades of false promises from all the major parties about social care.

Finally somebody is actually going to do something

Right now I don't really give a stuff how it happens; no doubt the details will get argued about and the goalposts changed over the next few years/decades, but something is better than the empty rhetoric I've heard for years.

Johnson is a complete headcase and I have no idea how he's got this deal to the table, but as a nation we need to back it.


Cue everybody telling me just how unfair it all is.

Well I don't give a monkeys, there's a chance that social care will be properly funded after decades of unnecessary hardship and suffering.

I'm happy to toss some money into the pot for that to happen..

Just as long as Boris' mate don't rip us off.
Some of the people can be fooled enough of the time.

Cronyism is part of the problem not the solution.
 
I worked as FD for a company in a very similar position. Residential and day care for young adults.

They didn't make a huge amount of money but what characterised the job was the annual contract discussions with local authorities who always wanted the job done better for cheaper.

Nobody was driving around in Ferraris but it seemed like the cqc thought we were.
All public services have been the victims of efficiency programs which are only concerned with cost
 
Daily telegraph in moaning overload.

Those who are still fooled by Boris should check out the front page cartoon.
 
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All public services have been the victims of efficiency programs which are only concerned with cost
Sometimes these programs are needed to control the costs, and remove the clear and obvious 'waste' that (sadly still) resides in many areas of public sector services . People in those services, and those by default against privatisation of any services sometimes refuse to accept that. The terms and attitude of some staff is quite alarming given their cry when it suits them about providing essential services, when it comes down to it, its all about them and maintaining an easg unchallenged life (I'm obviously not saying it is all of them, but I've certainly come across staff in differing sectors where this is definitely the case)
 
but what characterised the job was the annual contract discussions with local authorities who always wanted the job done better for cheaper.
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People so often forget, or don't realise this. There's a reason things are outsourced, less damaging to a council if private company take the grief of modernising and making changes to make the operation more efficient, which if done correctly (sadly not always the case) saves the taxpayer money, without reduction in service quality.
It's also a lot easier for councils to hold private companies to account and meeting service provision targets(with financial penalties) , something they wouldn't always do if inspecting themselves
 
People so often forget, or don't realise this. There's a reason things are outsourced, less damaging to a council if private company take the grief of modernising and making changes to make the operation more efficient, which if done correctly (sadly not always the case) saves the taxpayer money, without reduction in service quality.
It's also a lot easier for councils to hold private companies to account and meeting service provision targets(with financial penalties) , something they wouldn't always do if inspecting themselves
Theoretically yes, but in practice the business was started by the founder as a CIC because they wanted to contribute and do good in an area they understood. What happened was they spent forever being beaten over the head.
 
Sometimes these programs are needed to control the costs, and remove the clear and obvious 'waste' that (sadly still) resides in many areas of public sector services . People in those services, and those by default against privatisation of any services sometimes refuse to accept that. The terms and attitude of some staff is quite alarming given their cry when it suits them about providing essential services, when it comes down to it, its all about them and maintaining an easg unchallenged life (I'm obviously not saying it is all of them, but I've certainly come across staff in differing sectors where this is definitely the case)

The problem is that public services are about value not cost. Easy to cost cut by just stopping the service.

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