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I think that you deserved the win last night, but those last twenty minutes should steel you for life under Parker. Anyone who has watched QPR over this calendar year will know sitting back is not a good plan. The way we play we will be open constantly at the back and when you were on the front foot, you had a good chance of scoring. But, taking off strikers for defensive midfielders like Goblin Boy Pearson, bringing on lifelong R Charlie Mepham and just sitting in was a little embarrassing for a team at home expecting to challenge.

But, hey ho, you were generally stronger than us across the pitch, had a little more quality and a hell of a lot more of the dark arts - you know what I mean - timewasting shithousery like most teams in the Championship when they go ahead.

I read some of the comments in your match thread tonight and am amazed what I read about everyone's favourite dwarf who looks up even to Illias Chair, Lord Farqaad himself Keef Stroud.


You appear to think that he was bias against you - REALLY? OK, Willock could / should have walked for his kick out, but he was provoked into that by constant, regular fouling whenever he got near the ball including in the prelude to the kick. Keef was, as he always is, **************** to everyone. I mean if we hadn't scored, he'd already made it clear that he wasn't going to give a pen for the great goalkeeping your defender showed defending the cross.

The following extract from Loft for Words, the best written club website around, had it spot on:
"Let’s rattle through some of the others in vaguely chronological order… David Brooks deliberately, tactically, pulls back Chris Willock on 25 minutes as he accelerates away into dangerous space down the left – no yellow card. McCallum is fouled down the left on the stroke of half time, but it’s ok because the ball has run through to Willock and the attack is continuing – except it’s not, we’re coming back for the free kick, and players who would have been chasing to get involved in the move are now fighting, resulting in yellows for Brooks and Johansen entirely of the referee’s making. Andre Gray brings the ball down on his chest on the edge of the box, but isn’t then allowed to reach it because Kelly has got hold of his shirt with two hands – no free kick, assistant referee not doing a lot of assisting there looking straight across at it. Chris Willock is fouled, but then in going to retrieve the ball kicks out at Smith for a pretty obvious red card – yellow. The handball in the build up to the McCallum goal is a laughably terrible decision. Adam Smith, a succession of tactical fouls, injury feigning, time wasting and aggro, including the Willock incident, all the way through the final 20 minutes, but enjoying the sort of immunity we usually reserve in this country for the dipshit wives of American diplomats. Then he eventually got booked in stoppage time for some nonsense or other with Yoann Barbet, which was the absolute least of his many offences. Mark Travers blatantly clock running for all of the final half an hour, repeatedly warned with a typically big, dramatic, flouncy wave of the hands and point at the watch, but no card, and therefore no change."

There's more of that at https://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/footb...eback-falls-just-short-at-bournemouth--report if you are interested and I thoroughly recommend it.

Anyway, I saw enough last night to believe that we may be back here in May, so 'til then, good luck.
 
Opposing fans have differing views about the performance of the referee - shocker! I admit I walked away from the stadium convinced he had a QPR shirt on under his kit but hey ho, we all see what we want to see.

Anyway was quite impressed with your team and you play nicer stuff than many. Haven’t always had it easy last few years so good luck with the rest of the season.
 
That extract from Loft For Words is a keeper .............

I'm sure that we will have ample opportunity before the end of the season to use it, word for word, with only having to change the names to reflect some opponent or another.
 
There isn't really a lot of point coming on here and mentioning all these little incidents you remember, because we have, conveniently, forgotten them as unimportant and can also counter with lots of little things that you have, conveniently, forgotten them as unimportant.

Such as the Brooks yellow card looked like he was booked for being fouled. Free kick in the first half that looked terrible - was only terrible because QPR player threw Cahill to the ground.

I'm sure we can keep going tit for tat for quite a while. End of the day when both sets of fans think he was that biased to the other team (rather than a general ref moan), he probably wasn't biased, just terrible.
 
You put up a good fight but referee was just incompetent on both sides.

Side leading wastes time in the last 15 minutes - wow, what a shocker.

None of those incidents amounts to any obvious error that cost you (penalty turned down, disallowed goal etc.) and both Zemura and Willock should have been sent off which would have been even.

The block before the goal looked like handball on tv replays, but either way, you scored.

Smith is chief s***houser, you're not the first and won't be the last to moan about him!

I'm sure someone will come along to list all the incidents that we thought Stroud hit wrong which went your way. That's football.
 
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I think that you deserved the win last night, but those last twenty minutes should steel you for life under Parker. Anyone who has watched QPR over this calendar year will know sitting back is not a good plan. The way we play we will be open constantly at the back and when you were on the front foot, you had a good chance of scoring. But, taking off strikers for defensive midfielders like Goblin Boy Pearson, bringing on lifelong R Charlie Mepham and just sitting in was a little embarrassing for a team at home expecting to challenge.

But, hey ho, you were generally stronger than us across the pitch, had a little more quality and a hell of a lot more of the dark arts - you know what I mean - timewasting shithousery like most teams in the Championship when they go ahead.

I read some of the comments in your match thread tonight and am amazed what I read about everyone's favourite dwarf who looks up even to Illias Chair, Lord Farqaad himself Keef Stroud.

You appear to think that he was bias against you - REALLY? OK, Willock could / should have walked for his kick out, but he was provoked into that by constant, regular fouling whenever he got near the ball including in the prelude to the kick. Keef was, as he always is, **************** to everyone. I mean if we hadn't scored, he'd already made it clear that he wasn't going to give a pen for the great goalkeeping your defender showed defending the cross.

The following extract from Loft for Words, the best written club website around, had it spot on:
"Let’s rattle through some of the others in vaguely chronological order… David Brooks deliberately, tactically, pulls back Chris Willock on 25 minutes as he accelerates away into dangerous space down the left – no yellow card. McCallum is fouled down the left on the stroke of half time, but it’s ok because the ball has run through to Willock and the attack is continuing – except it’s not, we’re coming back for the free kick, and players who would have been chasing to get involved in the move are now fighting, resulting in yellows for Brooks and Johansen entirely of the referee’s making. Andre Gray brings the ball down on his chest on the edge of the box, but isn’t then allowed to reach it because Kelly has got hold of his shirt with two hands – no free kick, assistant referee not doing a lot of assisting there looking straight across at it. Chris Willock is fouled, but then in going to retrieve the ball kicks out at Smith for a pretty obvious red card – yellow. The handball in the build up to the McCallum goal is a laughably terrible decision. Adam Smith, a succession of tactical fouls, injury feigning, time wasting and aggro, including the Willock incident, all the way through the final 20 minutes, but enjoying the sort of immunity we usually reserve in this country for the dipshit wives of American diplomats. Then he eventually got booked in stoppage time for some nonsense or other with Yoann Barbet, which was the absolute least of his many offences. Mark Travers blatantly clock running for all of the final half an hour, repeatedly warned with a typically big, dramatic, flouncy wave of the hands and point at the watch, but no card, and therefore no change."

There's more of that at https://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/footb...eback-falls-just-short-at-bournemouth--report if you are interested and I thoroughly recommend it.

Anyway, I saw enough last night to believe that we may be back here in May, so 'til then, good luck.
I must admit I was disappointed in how you played as I expected a lot more from your lot than continually falling down trying to win free kicks and lumping it into our box.......I didn't see anything that I wouldn't see from a Warnock or a Pulis side tbh ....anyway it was a good experience for our young goalkeeper for our game against another exponent of your brand of football Cardiff on Saturday .....best of luck for the rest of the season.
 
The referee was appalling as was the linesman on the east stand side half the time the linesman didn’t know where his flag was and when he did he didn’t know which direction to flag for a throw in.

Stroud didn’t let the game flow and he set a tone with his performance with the early booking of Zemura. He gave every little niggle QPRs way and when a similar foul was made by QPR he let the game continue.
For us to still say the ref was appalling after a win says a lot really.
 
Referees are often the only thing fans of opposing teams agree about. Get the football refs to train and monitor rugby refs to see how it should be done. Nigel Owens was one of the greats.
 
Referees are often the only thing fans of opposing teams agree about. Get the football refs to train and monitor rugby refs to see how it should be done. Nigel Owens was one of the greats.
Rugby referees have a lot more in their favour to be fair. More respect from the players (and fans) which is embedded across the sport; ability to use video referee properly; option to use sin bin as a much better punishment than yellow cards. Agree that the standard is higher though. Importantly they don't try to be centre stage like some of the refs in football.

One thing which infuriates me in football is that the officials don't act as a team. You rarely see them conferring with linesmen much closer to the incident, and even in the prem with VAR it's totally disconnected.
 
Your own lightweight players were getting visibly frustrated with the refs inability to let the game play on. You had the advantage at almost every blow of the whistle. Maybe your soft, urbanite, city-slicking flowers should've just stayed on their feet?

Now get out.
 
If you think we are good at the darker arts, just wait until you finally get to play in the Prem again! You’d be in for a shock.

There’s a couple of things I don’t really understand about your post, but the theory that Parker got it wrong is the most baffling. Weren’t you unbeaten in about 12 games before we played you? And don’t you have the most points won from losing positions over the past 12 months? Surely then Parker is one of the few managers to get it right?

From what I observed, prior to the Pearson switch, you were enjoying too much space in the middle - that tactical switch stopped that. Bringing Mepham on at the end was when you had resorted to chucking everything into the box without the intricate build up play - that switch resorted in a game saving clearance/challenge. Meanwhile bringing Rodgers on (anything but a defensive midfielder) meant we had fresh pace in midfield to counter attack when we did have the ball. The substitutions worked perfectly. I’m not quite sure what you thought we should do - just go all out attack so that it was attack v attack for the last 30 minutes? That would seem a very strange move when 2-1 up at home against a promotion rival. I’m afraid it looks like you’ve let you’re dislike of Parker (I’m guessing due to the Fulham connection) get the better of you on that one.
 
I think the ref was just awful. Full stop.

I do agree that SP’s substitutions were defensive. QPR’s first subs at 55 minutes changed the game. They scored 2 minutes later. A few minutes after that Pearson came on for Brooks. We’d been on top for the best part of an hour and then handed them the initiative for most of the last half hour. The last 10-15 minutes saw an onslaught on our goal, encouraged by bringing Mepham on for Christie. We survived but rode our luck. Losing Brooks cut down our attacking and possession options.

We held on so that maybe justifies it. But the dark arts we displayed are exactly what many on here raged against in previous seasons. Seems it’s now seen as a necessary evil, an asset even. I didn’t like it then and I don’t like it now.

Some say it’s needed to get out of the division. It wasn’t in 2015.
 
saw enough last night to believe that we may be back here in May.

based on your performance for 75 minutes, no chance

playing for free kicks and corners only gets you so far in this league
should have been 3-0, game over
3 points without getting out of second gear and overly defensive at the end
parker needs to learn from the last 15 mins, kill the game by keeping the ball higher up the pitch
good luck for the rest of the season
 

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