Congrats

I certainly love to see Adam play, he sure knows how to fool refs and now in the twilight of his career he has it perfected, off field he is a nice guy to boot...ooops! that may not be the best way to explain an excellent footballer and may well be misconstrued by the general public, but never mind it may only me who thinks this way.
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Treads that fine line before his reputation precedes him and refs can't wait to book him (like Jeff). Would hate him in any oppo team but love his commitment.
 
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I think that you deserved the win last night, but those last twenty minutes should steel you for life under Parker. Anyone who has watched QPR over this calendar year will know sitting back is not a good plan. The way we play we will be open constantly at the back and when you were on the front foot, you had a good chance of scoring. But, taking off strikers for defensive midfielders like Goblin Boy Pearson, bringing on lifelong R Charlie Mepham and just sitting in was a little embarrassing for a team at home expecting to challenge.

But, hey ho, you were generally stronger than us across the pitch, had a little more quality and a hell of a lot more of the dark arts - you know what I mean - timewasting shithousery like most teams in the Championship when they go ahead.

I read some of the comments in your match thread tonight and am amazed what I read about everyone's favourite dwarf who looks up even to Illias Chair, Lord Farqaad himself Keef Stroud.

You appear to think that he was bias against you - REALLY? OK, Willock could / should have walked for his kick out, but he was provoked into that by constant, regular fouling whenever he got near the ball including in the prelude to the kick. Keef was, as he always is, **************** to everyone. I mean if we hadn't scored, he'd already made it clear that he wasn't going to give a pen for the great goalkeeping your defender showed defending the cross.

The following extract from Loft for Words, the best written club website around, had it spot on:
"Let’s rattle through some of the others in vaguely chronological order… David Brooks deliberately, tactically, pulls back Chris Willock on 25 minutes as he accelerates away into dangerous space down the left – no yellow card. McCallum is fouled down the left on the stroke of half time, but it’s ok because the ball has run through to Willock and the attack is continuing – except it’s not, we’re coming back for the free kick, and players who would have been chasing to get involved in the move are now fighting, resulting in yellows for Brooks and Johansen entirely of the referee’s making. Andre Gray brings the ball down on his chest on the edge of the box, but isn’t then allowed to reach it because Kelly has got hold of his shirt with two hands – no free kick, assistant referee not doing a lot of assisting there looking straight across at it. Chris Willock is fouled, but then in going to retrieve the ball kicks out at Smith for a pretty obvious red card – yellow. The handball in the build up to the McCallum goal is a laughably terrible decision. Adam Smith, a succession of tactical fouls, injury feigning, time wasting and aggro, including the Willock incident, all the way through the final 20 minutes, but enjoying the sort of immunity we usually reserve in this country for the dipshit wives of American diplomats. Then he eventually got booked in stoppage time for some nonsense or other with Yoann Barbet, which was the absolute least of his many offences. Mark Travers blatantly clock running for all of the final half an hour, repeatedly warned with a typically big, dramatic, flouncy wave of the hands and point at the watch, but no card, and therefore no change."

There's more of that at https://www.fansnetwork.co.uk/footb...eback-falls-just-short-at-bournemouth--report if you are interested and I thoroughly recommend it.

Anyway, I saw enough last night to believe that we may be back here in May, so 'til then, good luck.


Hey Davman, you sound like you’re chewing a mouthful of wasps while trying to be a nice guy.

Suck it up mate, we beat you, simple.

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Rugby referees have a lot more in their favour to be fair. More respect from the players (and fans) which is embedded across the sport; ability to use video referee properly; option to use sin bin as a much better punishment than yellow cards. Agree that the standard is higher though. Importantly they don't try to be centre stage like some of the refs in football.

One thing which infuriates me in football is that the officials don't act as a team. You rarely see them conferring with linesmen much closer to the incident, and even in the prem with VAR it's totally disconnected.
One of the biggest mysteries in life. The respect refs get in Rugby is a product of the respect line trotted out at almost every level of the game, where football has always been the opposite. In my late teens I played rugby on Saturdays, where I wouldn't have said and word to the ref and then football on the Sunday, where it was open season.

No idea why; I was as competitive in both sports, but behaved very differently.

That said, if Keith Stroud had reffed me at rugby, I'm not sure I could have kept my piece...
 
I love other Championship supporters hating Pearson. I also know that given half a chance of signing him for their club, they'd snap your hands off.
Can't argue with that. Shaun Derry and Neil Warnock in that category for us in the past...
 
Treads that fine line before his reputation precedes him and refs can't wait to book him (like Jeff). Would hate him in any oppo team but love his commitment.
I expect you mean 'Threads like' that. Do you really think refs read these sites....they're supposed to be unbiased aren't they? There's one main difference between Lerma and Smith and imoh Lerma is blatantly open and obvious with his fouls whereas Smith is discreet.
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Shhhh, don't quote facts like that these natives won't like that...

You said that AFCB were embarrassing for holding out for a win and here you are days later still trying to argue that somehow QPR didn't deserve what they got. You're not the best judge of what's embarrassing or not are you? I'd give it up mate.
 
One of the biggest mysteries in life. The respect refs get in Rugby is a product of the respect line trotted out at almost every level of the game, where football has always been the opposite. In my late teens I played rugby on Saturdays, where I wouldn't have said and word to the ref and then football on the Sunday, where it was open season.

No idea why; I was as competitive in both sports, but behaved very differently.

That said, if Keith Stroud had reffed me at rugby, I'm not sure I could have kept my piece...
Toting your piece while keeping the peace. I guess no ref. is going to argue with the bulge in your shorts.
 
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One of the biggest mysteries in life. The respect refs get in Rugby is a product of the respect line trotted out at almost every level of the game, where football has always been the opposite. In my late teens I played rugby on Saturdays, where I wouldn't have said and word to the ref and then football on the Sunday, where it was open season.

No idea why; I was as competitive in both sports, but behaved very differently.

That said, if Keith Stroud had reffed me at rugby, I'm not sure I could have kept my piece...

The England rugby captain was sent off in a major final for his club due to dissent (which was basically “f-you”) and missed a Lions series.

He admitted it and was widely condemned.

Can you ever see Harry Kane getting sent off for dissent? ..and if he did there would be outrage from Spurs fans and press.

Football refs can give out cards for abuse but don’t seem to bother maybe due to fear of being criticised or too lazy?

Wayne Rooney would have probably been banned for about half of the games he ever played !!

Mind you rugby refs do still get criticised in the media and by the managers occasionally but the players don’t bother on the pitch.

Too busy trying to land tackles on each other or do their form of dirty play.

Then it’s all trickles down to grassroots - bet you see kids trying to take a dive etc as well .
 
If you think we are good at the darker arts, just wait until you finally get to play in the Prem again! You’d be in for a shock.

There’s a couple of things I don’t really understand about your post, but the theory that Parker got it wrong is the most baffling. Weren’t you unbeaten in about 12 games before we played you? And don’t you have the most points won from losing positions over the past 12 months? Surely then Parker is one of the few managers to get it right?

From what I observed, prior to the Pearson switch, you were enjoying too much space in the middle - that tactical switch stopped that. Bringing Mepham on at the end was when you had resorted to chucking everything into the box without the intricate build up play - that switch resorted in a game saving clearance/challenge. Meanwhile bringing Rodgers on (anything but a defensive midfielder) meant we had fresh pace in midfield to counter attack when we did have the ball. The substitutions worked perfectly. I’m not quite sure what you thought we should do - just go all out attack so that it was attack v attack for the last 30 minutes? That would seem a very strange move when 2-1 up at home against a promotion rival. I’m afraid it looks like you’ve let you’re dislike of Parker (I’m guessing due to the Fulham connection) get the better of you on that one.

Agree. Our substitutions made sense. My issue was with our passing through the game. Not the tactics. I also felt the ref favoured QPR more. Maybe I'm biased but no more than QPR fans I don't think. The most logical explanation is that the ref was generally poor and lost control of the game and was essentially making it up as he went along. I agree that QPR should have had a penalty had you not scored. But, the stupidly harsh Zemura yellow card also made us very vulnerable down the right from the beginning and your player kicked out after being fouled but the ref yellow carded him for kicking out (What's that all about? There is no such thing as a yellow card kicking out offense). Basically, ref was CRAP... Both sets of supporters agree on that even though our interpretations of his bias aren't the same.
 
Ive noticed that the 'dark arts' have increased dramatically in non- league football even as low as Step 6..especially with the very young players.
The two clubs I attend ...the viewing points are very close to the touchlines and its all so obviously exagerrated when a player falls after being merely tackled..
Last night in the Liskeard v Wadebridge game the Ref even came over to the crowd and briefly explained a decision to book two players who constantly verbally threatened each other...We heard one player say " that's twice youve kicked me mate...try a 3rd and your dead .". ..they were both fair tackles !
 
Ive noticed that the 'dark arts' have increased dramatically in non- league football even as low as Step 6..especially with the very young players.
The two clubs I attend ...the viewing points are very close to the touchlines and its all so obviously exagerrated when a player falls after being merely tackled..
Last night in the Liskeard v Wadebridge game the Ref even came over to the crowd and briefly explained a decision to book two players who constantly verbally threatened each other...We heard one player say " that's twice youve kicked me mate...try a 3rd and your dead .". ..they were both fair tackles !
A little off topic but I love the Wadebridge area. Have spent many happy times in and around Polzeath and learnt to sail at Rock. Beautiful part of the world.
 

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