You're downgrading it as we speak.Yeah pretty sure. There's not a whole lot in this thread to be angry about. Jim talking in riddles and you not really saying anything is hardly blood boiling territory is it?
Are you sure? Are you really sure?
You're downgrading it as we speak.Yeah pretty sure. There's not a whole lot in this thread to be angry about. Jim talking in riddles and you not really saying anything is hardly blood boiling territory is it?
You're downgrading it as we speak.
Are you sure? Are you really sure?
Northern ignorance.I'm not sure what you're on about if that counts.
Those with half a brain cell would be better putting it to use to work out how to win the battle with ukipreform to be the main opposition.There has to be more than a handful of die hard reds on here. The showing is pitiful to be honest.
Druss and SDD beating their drums. Minjninja just trying to confuse everyone.
Any of those with half a brain could see how pitiful it all is.
Amusing someone of shite journalismWhat is it that you think this article demonstrates Jim? It's an article amusing Emma Barnett of shite journalism.
Amusing someone of shite journalism
Same old shoot the messenger whenever farage is treated like any other politician and asked questions.
How did the south sea bubble manage to happen without Gordon brown being to blame?Full context is yes he decided other investment markets would provide better returns: particularly currency.
Prices were low and for some reason he ignored the historic inverse elationship between gold and other markets, such as equities.
bank of england advised him not to do it...for various reasons. He of course ignored it. Gold was being offloaded by othef countries, so price was already dropping. It basically reads like a rank amateur.. thinking they know something will happen... in this case, that never happened before... gold stays low... forever or at least long term, and gambling on other markets outperforming it... no investment is on bull run whole time. Idea is diversification so when one is low/bear market, usually another is doing well. It's a counter balance... eggs aren't all in one basket.
Not only that, he decided to sell it off in staggered fashion, for some reason. Even better... announced we'd be selling it, for every trader and his dog to know. So of course the already record low value price of the gold, dropped even further. Before the auctions commenced.so we madr 10s of millions less by announcing it and selling in staggered fashion.. comparex to selling all in one go, without advertising our intentions.
Hindsight of course, but value of gold then rocketed as 2000s progressed. And data shows that if we hadn't sold the gold and invested elsewhere, the countries coffers would now have hundreds of millions more in there right now. .
Sad thing is he was advised not to do it by BoE... as it was at rock bottom price... and historic data indicates it swings. Instead he tries to play active trader/investor, forecasting an outcome that flew in face of what had happened before, and what experts told him to do.
People would be annoyed if they paid an FA who advised this path fir their personal investment and it tanked. How about an entire nations investment/wealth?
And this is before we begin to discuss another glorious financial episode from the UK's Mr Wall st/Gordon Gecko ... ah yes, the pension 'raid'.
Around 'credit crunch 'the Financial Advisor industry became much more heavily regulated....what with a lot of noise of cowboy FA'S, not necessarily acting in their clients best interest.
Hmm... i can certainly think of a cowboy, who acted as a rank amateur investor, who refused to listen to BoE.
Shortif blowing up the London stock exchange and canary wharf, it's hard to imagination how he could have realistically made much more of a mess of it.
Starmer getting into some bother now.. I'm not sure he will survive the full term...his projected use of the Nations funds is upsetting one hell of a lot of people....the latest Trump initiated chaos over the Chagos Islands when a deal was already agreed between Britain and Mauritius, being the latest thing to bring Starmer into financial controversy...as if enough had'nt gone before with Winter Heating and Farmers inheritance. ..
Oh Dear Keir....you is a silly billy !
On the contrary...but who is going to tax them ?You not liking millionaires paying more tax Brian?
On the contrary...but who is going to tax them ?
Starmer ?...chance will be a fine thing !
I've NEVER mentioned him taxing Millionaires...where did you get that from ?You moan about him taxing millionaires and now moan he won't do it. Make your mind up.
I guess it means how you class a millionaire.I've NEVER mentioned him taxing Millionaires...where did you get that from ?
I guess you might be referring to Farmers Inheritance Tax ..few of them are actually Millionaires any more...Recent Governments and the EU have ensured that !
I was referring, in that post, to Starmer getting mixed up in Trumps Chagos Islands issue !
You are just attempting to be superior to me and occasionally others in your political views...why?..why not just give your view of an event or issue and leave it there...prolonged attritional exchanges on a Football Forum are quite pathetic..as we see everyday it just leads to personal abuse and prattish put - downs .
Daft......or for the sake of Politics of which we have little control.
If they are not millionaires they won't have to pay the increased tax then. So you agree Starmer has not hurt the farmers at all.I've NEVER mentioned him taxing Millionaires...where did you get that from ?
I guess you might be referring to Farmers Inheritance Tax ..few of them are actually Millionaires any more...Recent Governments and the EU have ensured that !
I was referring, in that post, to Starmer getting mixed up in Trumps Chagos Islands issue !
You are just attempting to be superior to me and occasionally others in your political views...why?..why not just give your view of an event or issue and leave it there...prolonged attritional exchanges on a Football Forum are quite pathetic..as we see everyday it just leads to personal abuse and prattish put - downs .
Daft......or for the sake of Politics of which we have little control.
Yeah I think I have to go with you on that Druss.If they are not millionaires they won't have to pay the increased tax then. So you agree Starmer has not hurt the farmers at all.
We are getting somewhere...
If they are not millionaires they won't have to pay the increased tax then. So you agree Starmer has not hurt the farmers at all.
We are getting somewhere...
Make your mind up...tax millionaires or dont tax millionaires? You flip flop more than Lis Truss in Benidorm enjoying early retirement.Exactly how the farm stuff will work is still TBC with alternatives or tweaks being considered. Thankfully, cos it's b*llocks. Seems to have gone quiet lately on that front.
Say that, I found this from the Indie yesterday which doesn't bode so well.
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Every major supermarket turns on Starmer over tractor tax
Tesco, Sainsbury’s, Morrisons and Asda sign up to damning letter warning over ‘the long-term stability of the nation's food resilience’www.independent.co.uk
dear old liz, one of the 10,000 millionaires who have already left the uk since spanner was electedMake your mind up...tax millionaires or dont tax millionaires? You flip flop more than Lis Truss in Benidorm enjoying early retirement.
Thats not true is it? left last year. The whole of the year? Any evidence at all that 10k left in the second half of the year?dear old liz, one of the 10,000 millionaires who have already left the uk since spanner was elected