Stan's attitude last night sums up everything I hated, and still hate about playing football.
Every team has one moaning gobshite who thinks he knows everything about the game and what you should and shouldn't have done. 90+minutes of complaints in your ear every time you touch the ball.
From bitter experience, it does no good; it usually stops the player from playing his instictive game.
I'm sure now when Sam goes through on goal, for a brief moment he'll look for Stan just in case he's anywhere near wanting the ball.
Last night could wreck a potential AFCB legends confidence.
We're not all built from the same mould on the pitch, it takes all sorts.
Eddie was, for a while, a genius at getting 11 very different people to play as a unit.
I hope JT learnt something from him.
Every team has one moaning gobshite who thinks he knows everything about the game and what you should and shouldn't have done. 90+minutes of complaints in your ear every time you touch the ball.
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Unfortunately I don’t think this is going to go away. Jason has got a job on his hands trying to sort it out. In my experience of managing teams in a workforce the only solution is to remove one or other of the parties. Resentment festers unless the individuals are quite unusual characters. In an average workplace it’s quite easy to shift one person to another department but that’s not an option here.
I think one thing we have learned from this both players are passionate about the team they both play in. It was probably frustration things were not going their way. The end result is what matters, soon forgotten. We are going to have games like this where teams set up to stop us playing & we need to learn how to break them down. Let them both sort this out without us getting on their backs , 3 points is what we needed. lets look forward to the next game.I’ve seen the two clips I’ve posted about.
I don’t think it needs a forensic analysis to apportion blame solely on one person.
No one learns anything from it that way. Stanislas takes responsibility for his part and Surridge takes responsibility for his part and they move on.
Stan's attitude last night sums up everything I hated, and still hate about playing football.
Every team has one moaning gobshite who thinks he knows everything about the game and what you should and shouldn't have done. 90+minutes of complaints in your ear every time you touch the ball.
From bitter experience, it does no good; it usually stops the player from playing his instictive game.
I'm sure now when Sam goes through on goal, for a brief moment he'll look for Stan just in case he's anywhere near wanting the ball.
Last night could wreck a potential AFCB legends confidence.
We're not all built from the same mould on the pitch, it takes all sorts.
Eddie was, for a while, a genius at getting 11 very different people to play as a unit.
I hope JT learnt something from him.
I think if the Sam incident hadn't happened we wouldn't be talking about the Kelly incident. Kelly really should have read that pass and the way he stopped was annoying. So I'm Ok with that one.
It was the double up with the Sam one that is making it more high profile - twice in a game is odd especially from someone like Stan who normally seems so upbeat.
Last night wasn't pretty and given the context of our form and theirs, we should have been well clear and in a party mood a la Huddersfield. As it was there was a lot of aggro on the pitch with niggles, time wasting, red cards, frustrating play.... Tempers were definitely up.
I think it's very bad form to have an on field scuffle. they last long in the memory (fights over penalties usually!). What the club need to do is release training photos from today/tomorrow which show spirits between Sam/Stan back up high again. A few smiles. then we can all move on. It happened once, get over it. If it happens again though......
Yes , right in front of us in the East Stand - I thought it was a poor pass as Kelly was moving to either accept it wider or drag the defender to create space - the geezer sat near me I spoke to thought exactly the same ....The Kelly pass happened right in front of me as I was sat by the away section. I think whether it was a bad pass by Stan or poor decision making by Kelly depends on what they’ve been working on in training.
Kelly was starting to make a run to take up a wide position, either to receive the ball outside or to distract the defender allowing Stan to cut inside. Fair enough and, given Kelly’s movement, it was a poor pass.
If, however, they’ve been working in training on something like that trademark Man City goal where you work it to someone on the byeline near the edge of the six yard box and they cut it back for an in rushing team mate, then the pass was fine (if a bit heavy) and it was poor anticipation by Kelly.
Either way the pair of them chuntered away to each other to the extent that Steve Cook spoke to each of them, presumably telling them to get over it.
This is very true - there are people at my work who I wouldn’t mix with out of work and others that are great friends and have been for years ...I like to see a bit of passion about our players, it's what has been missing in some of our games this season. It'll all be forgotten this morning and if it isn't so what ? A lot of us tolerate our workmates because we have to, not because we particularly get on well with them.
From where I was sat in the South near the East, right near the pair of them, this was also my view of it. Stan's pass was miscued, it was mostly his fault. Kelly made roughly the correct line of his run, wide of the defender, to create more space. Stan just played the ball too near to the defender. It was a simple 10 yard pass and it was frustrating.Yes , right in front of us in the East Stand - I thought it was a poor pass as Kelly was moving to either accept it wider or drag the defender to create space - the geezer sat near me I spoke to thought exactly the same ....
Cookie stepped in and tried to defuse it but I don’t think it did much .
Daniels/Pugh they are not ...