Steve Cook

BoscombeCherry

BoscombeCherry

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Kudos said:
Definitely not the classy and honest guy I had him pegged as.

I can't think of any prior examples where players have come out and basically said the referee won the game for them.
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I remember Wilson laughing about his handball goal against West Ham, saying it was a little bit of magic, or words to that effect. Don't recall many people complaining about that. I'd rather something like what Cookie's put out than if he came out in support of the decision, saying they got it right.
 
DJ

DJ

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I don’t mind what he’s said in the slightest. He’s highlighted that he’s been on polar opposite sides of the technology in football debate.

The difference of course being that they relied on the technology in that Aston Villa game, whilst for the penalties in the play-off was ultimately human error by the referee in the game and the VAR for not referring it to Moss.
 
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Sleepy Cherry

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DJ said:
I don’t mind what he’s said in the slightest. He’s highlighted that he’s been on polar opposite sides of the technology in football debate.

The difference of course being that they relied on the technology in that Aston Villa game, whilst for the penalties in the play-off was ultimately human error by the referee in the game and the VAR for not referring it to Moss.
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I don't think it's a massive deal either. It might actually work against Forest if referees think 'well we won't give them the benefit of the doubt next time'. Eddie would have hated him saying that if he had still been his manager. But, he isn't. Also, maybe Cookie was a bit drunk, so said more than he usually would?
 
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Sleepy Cherry

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He's also wrong I believe when he says that we were relegated because of goal line technology not working. Sure, the ball went over the line for Sheffield United v Villa, but to say we wouldn't have been relegated had the correct decision been made is the same as saying Forest would have won automatic promotion if a penalty had been given against us. SU would have had a goal, but Villa may have responded to that goal. I think a more significant occurrence was the Burnley match, where VAR cancelled our equaliser and awarded Burnley a penalty when the ball had hit Smithy's shoulder. That was demoralising for the team. Also, we were relegated because we were awful for at least half of the season, which included strange selection decisions/substitutions at times, our attacking players not giving their all and mistake after mistake in midfield and defence. This included Cook himself at times, for instance, with his red card save of the season, which had a massive impact on the Norwich match. There was no one reason why we were relegated, but I believe we lost most points because we were simply not good enough. I had no grievance with relegation. It's 100% what we deserved.
 
OLDSKOOL

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Sleepy Cherry said:
He's also wrong I believe when he says that we were relegated because of goal line technology not working. Sure, the ball went over the line for Sheffield United v Villa, but to say we wouldn't have been relegated had the correct decision been made is the same as saying Forest would have won automatic promotion if a penalty had been given against us. SU would have had a goal, but Villa may have responded to that goal. I think a more significant occurrence was the Burnley match, where VAR cancelled our equaliser and awarded Burnley a penalty when the ball had hit Smithy's shoulder. That was demoralising for the team. Also, we were relegated because we were awful for at least half of the season, which included strange selection decisions/substitutions at times, our attacking players not giving their all and mistake after mistake in midfield and defence. This included Cook himself at times, for instance, with his red card save of the season, which had a massive impact on the Norwich match. There was no one reason why we were relegated, but I believe we lost most points because we were simply not good enough. I had no grievance with relegation. It's 100% what we deserved.
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Absolutely this .
 
Cherry_Bozzo

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Don't forget that AFCB have a bit of history with Moss from the away game at Sheff Utd in the relegation season when Gosling accused Moss of being "a disgrace" and "very disrespectful" towards AFCB throughout the game. Cookie was a part of the squad that day, although he did not play, and maybe there was a bit of a feeling of payback in those comments about the play off final.

https://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/s...jon-moss-saga-unfolded-raises-lots-questions/

or google "Jon Moss Dan Gosling" for more reports if you do not remember the fuss it made at the time..
 
SlowDownDerek

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Sleepy Cherry said:
He's also wrong I believe when he says that we were relegated because of goal line technology not working. Sure, the ball went over the line for Sheffield United v Villa, but to say we wouldn't have been relegated had the correct decision been made is the same as saying Forest would have won automatic promotion if a penalty had been given against us. SU would have had a goal, but Villa may have responded to that goal. I think a more significant occurrence was the Burnley match, where VAR cancelled our equaliser and awarded Burnley a penalty when the ball had hit Smithy's shoulder. That was demoralising for the team. Also, we were relegated because we were awful for at least half of the season, which included strange selection decisions/substitutions at times, our attacking players not giving their all and mistake after mistake in midfield and defence. This included Cook himself at times, for instance, with his red card save of the season, which had a massive impact on the Norwich match. There was no one reason why we were relegated, but I believe we lost most points because we were simply not good enough. I had no grievance with relegation. It's 100% what we deserved.
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True to an extent. The difference between Forest's penalty and that Sheffield United goal is that had the penalty/goal been awarded and everything else stayed the same then we would have survived. Forest would have needed a load of other things to happen to have gone up automatically.
 
billythekid

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SlowDownDerek said:
True to an extent. The difference between Forest's penalty and that Sheffield United goal is that had the penalty/goal been awarded and everything else stayed the same then we would have survived. Forest would have needed a load of other things to happen to have gone up automatically.
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Going into the last six games, AFCB had a 7 point lead over Forest.

In those last six games AFCB got 14 points, Forest 13 points.

So we gained one extra point and finished 8 points ahead of them.

Also Forest finished 4th, two points behind Huddersfield Town.

So no way were they going to get automatic promotion.
 
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Leeds Cherry

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I am getting fed up with them all constantly insisting they should have won automatic promotion.
I keep reminding them on newspaper forums they finished 8 points behind us.
Also seeing annoying posts that all 5 European Cup winners are back in the Premier League.
I do think the media adolation was way over the top. They were fourth in the end and never in the top 2 all season. They were outplayed and well beaten twice by us.
 
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