Travers Starts ?! No Asmir , hes gone .

afcdibby

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#62
Some chap on Twitter [ and yes, I take it with a pinch of salt ] said that Bego came and said goodbyes on Friday and a deal involving him and Butland has been agreed. Got this from the usual 'insider'. We will see in due course! No way would Stoke get 30m for Butland....and I assume we would value Bego at 10m or so...think if we could get Butland for 10m plus Bego, that is good business.
It doesn't just stop at the transfer though. Stoke have to pay Begovic a wage he's happy with and that wont come cheap.
 

cockbeard

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#63
Rumours Huddersfield might want Ramsdale for a season, I would bite their hand off, first team football at that level at that age for a keeper is hard to come by. Hopefully get Travers in at Lg1 level. Butland on a 2-3 year deal, plays next season, Boruc one more year as backup, I believe you can still emergency recall keepers from loans just in case anything happens
 
#64
Rumours Huddersfield might want Ramsdale for a season, I would bite their hand off, first team football at that level at that age for a keeper is hard to come by. Hopefully get Travers in at Lg1 level. Butland on a 2-3 year deal, plays next season, Boruc one more year as backup, I believe you can still emergency recall keepers from loans just in case anything happens
Huddersfield would be a great loan for Ramsdale ! If Butland comes I think we need to find a Championship club for Travers at least ( after all, he is now a “proven” PL goalkeeper ). If Butland doesn’t work out or either one of Butland or Boruc gets injured, we can recall Travers ( recalls for loaned goalies are always permitted ) since he would be next in the pecking order. If all the while Ramsdale is busy helping Huddersfield get promoted, happy days on the goalkeeping front !
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#65
It doesn't just stop at the transfer though. Stoke have to pay Begovic a wage he's happy with and that wont come cheap.
Sometimes the selling club has to subsidise the wages of a player they sell. There might be a deal to be done where they let us have Butland if we cover say 30k of Begovic’s wages at Stoke
 

wallmth

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#66
But/Bego switch could be great ! One of our youngsters proving they’re a hidden Jen and don’t cost us a penny would be even better ...it’s a gamble but if we have Boruc in the wings what have we got to lose .
 
#67
Just had a Wimbledon fan on 606 saying how good Ramsdale is. Presenter then mentioned Travers and what good young keepers we have at the club. Ironic given how dodgy our senior keepers have been at times.

It’s actually a really interesting dilemma for Eddie. Bringing in someone of Butland’s age is saying you want him to be our keeper for the next 7 years or more. That would seriously dent Travers and Ramesdale’s development. Part of me thinks bringing in an experienced stop gap for a couple of years might be an option. There’s also a danger of getting too far ahead of ourselves with our youngsters.
 
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#68
Rumours Huddersfield might want Ramsdale for a season, I would bite their hand off, first team football at that level at that age for a keeper is hard to come by. Hopefully get Travers in at Lg1 level. Butland on a 2-3 year deal, plays next season, Boruc one more year as backup, I believe you can still emergency recall keepers from loans just in case anything happens
That would be a great deal all round.
 
#72
I have no real problem in giving Travers a go - certainly at Palace BUT expect mistakes that cost us goals at certain times. There is a reason most teams go for experience - it matters. What would we be saying if that half way line shot from Moura after just 5 mins had gone in - it could have been a totally different headline - rookie keeper caught off line all over YouTube.
I would like to see what he can do when exposed to high crosses that he has to deal with under pressure for example (he had none to catch on Saturday).
Good luck to the guy (and Ramsdale), I am not being negative just trying to be realistic.
 
#73
...all I know is that Burnley threw in Pope and he ends up getting picked for his country.....no reason why Travers can’t be our no1?
Nick Pope was 25 when Burnley threw him in, and he had already played 33 times for Charlton.

Jordan Pickford is a better example. He came into the Sunderland first team at 22 because of injury and never looked back. But that was after various loan spells at clubs like Carlisle, Bradford City & Preston North End.

I’d like to see Travers earn his spurs (so to speak) with a loan spell or two first.
 
#74
I have no real problem in giving Travers a go - certainly at Palace BUT expect mistakes that cost us goals at certain times. There is a reason most teams go for experience - it matters. What would we be saying if that half way line shot from Moura after just 5 mins had gone in - it could have been a totally different headline - rookie keeper caught off line all over YouTube.
I would like to see what he can do when exposed to high crosses that he has to deal with under pressure for example (he had none to catch on Saturday).
Good luck to the guy (and Ramsdale), I am not being negative just trying to be realistic.
All the top keepers drop clangers, after all they are only human.
 
#76
Of course they do, the difference with a very young goalkeeper is that it can destroy their confidence in an instant.
Surely that depends on their mind set.
To be a keeper you can't keep thinking about what might of happened if I did this or if I did that. You have to blot mistakes out of your mind and get on with the game, otherwise they would be nipping off to the loo every time they let a easy goal in.
 
#77
I have no real problem in giving Travers a go - certainly at Palace BUT expect mistakes that cost us goals at certain times. There is a reason most teams go for experience - it matters. What would we be saying if that half way line shot from Moura after just 5 mins had gone in - it could have been a totally different headline - rookie keeper caught off line all over YouTube.
I would like to see what he can do when exposed to high crosses that he has to deal with under pressure for example (he had none to catch on Saturday).
Good luck to the guy (and Ramsdale), I am not being negative just trying to be realistic.
Mistakes from Begovic have cost us goals at numerous times this season anyway so quite frankly don’t see what we have to lose!
 

wellsworld

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#78
the crucial thing here is the realisation that having a top class keeper, be it travers or a.n.other, will significantly upgrade our team, and net us potentially many more valuable league points. seen so many good oppo keepers at dean court that have won their team points - not feeling ours have done that. crucial eh makes the right decision. in eddie we trust.
 

afcdibby

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#79
Nick Pope was 25 when Burnley threw him in, and he had already played 33 times for Charlton.

Jordan Pickford is a better example. He came into the Sunderland first team at 22 because of injury and never looked back. But that was after various loan spells at clubs like Carlisle, Bradford City & Preston North End.

I’d like to see Travers earn his spurs (so to speak) with a loan spell or two first.
Sunderland were relegated with Pickford in the team. You would hope he looks back at that.
 
#80
Surely that depends on their mind set.
To be a keeper you can't keep thinking about what might of happened if I did this or if I did that. You have to blot mistakes out of your mind and get on with the game, otherwise they would be nipping off to the loo every time they let a easy goal in.
Definitely depends on their mindset and experience helps to cope with the inevitable mistake. It's the same with outfield players except a mistake doesn't always result in a goal.
I am sure EH will be very careful to both encourage and protect Travers.