Bugbears

fritter said:
Players pulling a player back when they've lost them. Only sometimes a yellow card.
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This is my bugbear, I can accept a poorly timed or misplaced tackle in an honest attempt to win the ball but pulling an opponent back when you've lost them to stop a break really infuriates me firstly when it isn't punished with a yellow card and secondly when a yellow card doesn't feel suficient.

West Ham did it at the weekend and a lot of the 'top' teams do it all the time and have done it for years.

Martinelli vs Newcastle at the weekend is another example.

I think the concept of a 'sin bin' would work for these types of foul. You get a yellow card but also have to leave the field of play for 10 mins - a proper punishment and deterrent.
 
SlowDownDerek said:
Completely disagree. If a player is badly fouled why shouldn't they suggest to the ref that the guilty party is booked? If he doesn't like it he shouldn't have fouled him in the first place.
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Presumably the player waving the card is fully trained on the laws of the game.

WHU player opted for putting a friendly arm round the ref in the best tradition of LFC and MUFC
 
KevCorfe said:
This is my bugbear, I can accept a poorly timed or misplaced tackle in an honest attempt to win the ball but pulling an opponent back when you've lost them to stop a break really infuriates me firstly when it isn't punished with a yellow card and secondly when a yellow card doesn't feel suficient.

West Ham did it at the weekend and a lot of the 'top' teams do it all the time and have done it for years.

Martinelli vs Newcastle at the weekend is another example.

I think the concept of a 'sin bin' would work for these types of foul. You get a yellow card but also have to leave the field of play for 10 mins - a proper punishment and deterrent.
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Sick of cheating being celebrated as the 'dark arts'. This should be a red. Change my mind.
 

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billythekid said:
2. Ex Professional footballers saying that the new rules giving yellow cards for time wasting is killing the game. No it isn't, time wasting is killing the game.

One thing I noticed at Dean Court last Saturday was how little time wasting there was.

Instead of leaving a ball where it ended on the pitch as previous seasons, players from the opposing sides were giving the ball back.

It made a pleasant change and for me and probably most other football fans, the new time wasting rule is a good one.
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Our match had the second lowest amount of added time for (bugbear alert) Matchday One.
 
No one has mentioned diving yet. This my No.1 gripe. Players who spend most of their afternoon prostrate on the turf. As Red Sky has said, these players are celebrated for 'winning' penalties/free kicks. Vardy, Toney, Zaha, Mitrovic amongst others. They are cheats and bring the game into disrepute every time they take the field. Refs encourage it by doing nothing. Drives me mad !!!:arrghh:
 
cherrybeetle said:
No one has mentioned diving yet. This my No.1 gripe. Players who spend most of their afternoon prostrate on the turf. As Red Sky has said, these players are celebrated for 'winning' penalties/free kicks. Vardy, Toney, Zaha, Mitrovic amongst others. They are cheats and bring the game into disrepute every time they take the field. Refs encourage it by doing nothing. Drives me mad !!!:arrghh:
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Whilst on the subject of diving, how about defenders who try to shield the ball, and then throw themselves to the ground at the slightest contact?

West Ham had a couple on saturday, one in the first half, and then that cheating turd in the second half who threw himself to the ground and rolled around like he had been shot - and nobody touched him!!
 
Flake said:
I get irked by Jamie Carragher and several other pundits adding the phrase, "I really do" to the end of every opinion they offer.
"I think that's a foul, I really do."
"It was a great goal, it really was."
"He should be sent off, he really should."
"Iraola is a great appointment, he really is."
Etc etc. It happens at least ten times a game, or once a minute with Carragher.
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Good post, it really was

Sorry
 
punkrockcherry said:
Whilst on the subject of diving, how about defenders who try to shield the ball, and then throw themselves to the ground at the slightest contact?

West Ham had a couple on saturday, one in the first half, and then that cheating turd in the second half who threw himself to the ground and rolled around like he had been shot - and nobody touched him!!
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Also when players try and shield the ball from 15 meters out as it slowly trickles out, its obstruction
 
red_house said:
I remember when this imaginary card waving started coming in, It was originally an Italian thing I recall, all theatrics, tantrums and drama. For me its about breaching the spirit of the game although I accept that's totally down the pan now. Any attempt to influence the ref should be dealt with, no one wants to see it.
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I think that probably explains it, people associate it with 'foreigners' and not the gentlemanly game played by the English. I suppose players who have just been clattered when through on goal should just shake hands with the guy and shrug their shoulders if the ref does nothing. Sounds like the sort of logic that saw Gary O'Neil booked last night tbh.
 
Flake said:
I get irked by Jamie Carragher and several other pundits adding the phrase, "I really do" to the end of every opinion they offer.
"I think that's a foul, I really do."
"It was a great goal, it really was."
"He should be sent off, he really should."
"Iraola is a great appointment, he really is."
Etc etc. It happens at least ten times a game, or once a minute with Carragher.
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You wouldn't like Northern Ireland, so it is.
 
Commentators that won’t make a decision on an incident until the official one is out so they can’t be wrong.
This thread is perfect for grumpy old men like most of us it would seem
 
adam0102 said:
So…..he’s a good player, then
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Marvin Bartley v Surman...

Edit to say: perhaps not the best example as one didn't play in top flight, but it's an afcb comparison off the top of my head.

You obviously have to be decent on the ball to make it in the top flight, but some are slower, weaker but are excellent, exceptional in what they can do to the ball with their feet, whereas others are still considered excellent players but perhaps wouldn't have made it at the top level if they weren't as fast/strong (athletic).

Quite clear to me what is meant by a good technical player.
 
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8. Pundits sitting on the fence about what is clear and obvious to use the VAR parlance. "Apparently Wolves could have had a penalty" no. "Wolves SHOULD have had a penalty".

9. "If that had gone in it would have been a goal", "The keeper saved the goal" Pundit/comentator nonsense

10. Clinton Morrison
 
This is a brilliant thread. In all the excitement for the season to start I forgot how much I hated the lazy media circus around the coverage.

Let me add a few:

11. Writing off teams because they're perceived to be small without even the most basic research.

12. Comments from supposed professionals after 30 minutes of competitive football that our style hasn't changed at all.

13. All commentary outside of Solent being biased towards the opposition.

14. Radio Solent Scummers first coverage.

2b. Watched a full match stream and when Bowen got a card on 39 minutes the commentator had a full-on rant about referees killing the game by "giving out cards like confetti" and that there'd be nobody left on the pitch completely unaware that one card every 40 minutes is 2 cards across 22 players (excluding subs)
 
Kudos said:
This is a brilliant thread. In all the excitement for the season to start I forgot how much I hated the lazy media circus around the coverage.

Let me add a few:

11. Writing off teams because they're perceived to be small without even the most basic research.

12. Comments from supposed professionals after 30 minutes of competitive football that our style hasn't changed at all.

13. All commentary outside of Solent being biased towards the opposition.

14. Radio Solent Scummers first coverage.

2b. Watched a full match stream and when Bowen got a card on 39 minutes the commentator had a full-on rant about referees killing the game by "giving out cards like confetti" and that there'd be nobody left on the pitch completely unaware that one card every 40 minutes is 2 cards across 22 players (excluding subs)
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I am quite enjoying all my Luton Town neighbours getting fed up with the "Away entrance though a terraced house" that gets trotted out EVERY time anyone mentions Luton. Yes we all know !

Lets all have a chat about the delights of Main Road back in the day.
It's improved now though. Can't think of anything worse than being a "Tunnel Club" member ooh errr Mrs. How awkward must it be for all involved ? Fans watching players lining up just before they go on the pitch. If they are lucky there might be some "doing up a shoe lace" action.
 
"To be fair" Clinton Morrison
"He really is" Ally McCoist
"Ummm errr, to be fair he really is" Glen Hoddle : )

Commentators and pundits, reviewing correct offside decisions with "He was only just offside" Instead of "That was a very good decision by the officials"
: )
 
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