Andoni Iraola

SteveJonesLegend said:
Will be a big season for him, next season, if this is to be the case... Iraola has definitely shown us and the league what he is capable of doing, but it's been inconsistent and a slow burn at times... I love his football but the 'chaos' of throwing everything and every one at the win will be perceived by some as a bit too unpredictable.

It's still not proven that his style of play is sustainable in the PL. For me, there seems a strong connection with the time of the season and the fact we're suffering injuries, and things have 'slowed' a little in the press and game plan... Are the players just absolutely buggered...?!?!?

Any 'so-called' bigger club will also expect quicker results and points on the board than Iraola showed here... We all saw first hand how long it took our players to understand his approach in both training and games... Other clubs would have strongly considering sacking Iraola in similar circumstances. He's not the type of manager that can just walk into a club and instantly improve you, and if he only ever wants short-term contracts, will clubs still be tempted in the short-term investment... ?

Like I said at the start, big season next year, to see how far we've come...? I too would love him to stay though and buy into what we're doing here...
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Not sure tbh mate.

Had very tough opening run of fixtures, and not much more wad expected during that run tbh... apart from a couple of concerning performances.

Also, players said his instructions were too complex, and he's since dialled that back.

Assume he'd have learnt from that for the future.
 
SteveJonesLegend said:
Will be a big season for him, next season, if this is to be the case... Iraola has definitely shown us and the league what he is capable of doing, but it's been inconsistent and a slow burn at times... I love his football but the 'chaos' of throwing everything and every one at the win will be perceived by some as a bit too unpredictable.

It's still not proven that his style of play is sustainable in the PL. For me, there seems a strong connection with the time of the season and the fact we're suffering injuries, and things have 'slowed' a little in the press and game plan... Are the players just absolutely buggered...?!?!?

Any 'so-called' bigger club will also expect quicker results and points on the board than Iraola showed here... We all saw first hand how long it took our players to understand his approach in both training and games... Other clubs would have strongly considering sacking Iraola in similar circumstances. He's not the type of manager that can just walk into a club and instantly improve you, and if he only ever wants short-term contracts, will clubs still be tempted in the short-term investment... ?

Like I said at the start, big season next year, to see how far we've come...? I too would love him to stay though and buy into what we're doing here...
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If I put myself in the shoes of a bigger PL or La Liga club, I would currently view AI as one among no doubt several potential candidates for the future, but the key will be watching what happens next.

Whether he can finish the season well and then build on it next season. Putting together back to back 'successful' seasons (by whatever metric, midtable being success for us) is really tough in the PL.

If he achieves similar next season then he starts to look like the real deal (that I already think he likely is) and the offers will come flying in.
 
northstandmark said:
If I put myself in the shoes of a bigger PL or La Liga club, I would currently view AI as one among no doubt several potential candidates for the future, but the key will be watching what happens next.

Whether he can finish the season well and then build on it next season. Putting together back to back 'successful' seasons (by whatever metric, midtable being success for us) is really tough in the PL.

If he achieves similar next season then he starts to look like the real deal (that I already think he likely is) and the offers will come flying in.
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That's how I see it too.

How we end this season and how we look next season will be critical to how he is viewed by potential suitors.

If our players are already knackered and activate cruise control between now and the end of the season, then we could be in for a run of underwhelming results. That would also be the first indication that perhaps his style of football can barely be maintained over an entire season and that could make him less attractive to the bigger clubs who might otherwise have been interested.

Similarly, if he has another bad spell at some point next season, perhaps as more teams get wise to our tactics, people will be looking at how he responds to that, to see if he is just a one trick pony.

If he appears to be a one trick pony playing a style of football which is impossible to sustain for a whole season physically, then all of a sudden he seems like a less attractive option.

If we end this season in the proper way and either avoid a bad run next season, or he finds a way out of one, that's probably when the larger clubs will really start to take an interest in him.

I would like to see him extend for a further year beyond his current contract in the summer. It makes sense from the club's point of view and hopefully AI and his family will now feel settled here and be happy to stick with the project for a further couple of seasons. We are still progressing, which is all you can really ask for as an ambitious manager. We haven't reached our ceiling yet, so there is still a job to be done !

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Kudos said:
I think the short contract was more driven by AI than us I suspect he was offered more than 2 years but he seems to prefer shorter contracts. Tindall and Parker were 3 years.

I hope he's here longer but I'm half resigned to losing him at the end of next season.
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I think it will depend on where the club is at towards the end of 2024, but I can easily see him wanting to stay if the club keeps growing.

Here he’s part of an ambitious group that knows what they’re doing, so I can hardly see him wanting to leave for a mid sized less organized club just for more money.

I could see him leaving for a big club where he feels he can bring it to the next level though (i.e. Spurs, West Ham, Newcastle). But for those guys to knock on his door he needs to prove himself more IMO.
 
Agree with some of the comments above, I just feel that (depending on how next year goes) there could be a small pool of clubs that Iraola would see as a progressive step in his career, in the UK... and would that small pool of clubs gamble on him based around what they will have seen of him and his style of play here.. Who knows...??? As suggested, it will all depend on how we finish and how we approach next season.

Having the training facility finished, during his initial spell here, could also be a huge tick in our favour when potentially trying to get him to extend... Having the club's growth plan on paper is a very different thing to seeing it and living it... Especially as it will effectively be his and the players' office that will become a reality in 6 months...

It's been a great season from a fans' perspective, and I hope we continue next year where we left off this year and really push on. Up until now, Re the club progressing, it's either been on or off-field. We're now seeing the possibilities of both happening... Exciting times ahead and hopefully Iraola sees that also...
 
SteveJonesLegend said:
Agree with some of the comments above, I just feel that (depending on how next year goes) there could be a small pool of clubs that Iraola would see as a progressive step in his career, in the UK... and would that small pool of clubs gamble on him based around what they will have seen of him and his style of play here.. Who knows...??? As suggested, it will all depend on how we finish and how we approach next season.

Having the training facility finished, during his initial spell here, could also be a huge tick in our favour when potentially trying to get him to extend... Having the club's growth plan on paper is a very different thing to seeing it and living it... Especially as it will effectively be his and the players' office that will become a reality in 6 months...

It's been a great season from a fans' perspective, and I hope we continue next year where we left off this year and really push on. Up until now, Re the club progressing, it's either been on or off-field. We're now seeing the possibilities of both happening... Exciting times ahead and hopefully Iraola sees that also...
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Hopefully he doesn't go to wolves
 
AI style of play takes a certain calibre of player I feel.

I think we were able, to a large extent, to sign players to suit that style, and we did that before he joined, perhaps in the knowledge he was coming here.

Any big club taking AI on may well like his style, but it's one that can only be implemented with a large chunk of transfer fees.

.....perhaps.
 
I think they are probably already looking at players that fit into the AI type of player.
Will no doubt see a glut of players leaving permanently, whether we agree or not with the decision - Rothwell, Brooks, Kilkenny, Lowe (remember him), Marcondes, Traore, Randolph, Moore, Fredericks, Kelly, Radu and possibly Solanke and Kerkez - that's 13 players in total so quite a bit of work required.
 
Kelly, Radu, Fredericks, Marcondes and Randolph will leave for nothing.
Lowe, Moore, Rothwell and Kilkenny may fetch £8m in total.
Traore we have to hope Napoli buy him for the £23m loan obligation.

The players we will make biggest money on will be the ones we least want to sell starting with Brooks - £15m, then Kerkez £25m Billing 25m Solanke £50m and we'd need to use raised funds and saved money in wages to rebuild again to stay up, not easy.
 
Vlad_The_Impaler said:
Kelly, Radu, Fredericks, Marcondes and Randolph will leave for nothing.
Lowe, Moore, Rothwell and Kilkenny may fetch £8m in total.
Traore we have to hope Napoli buy him for the £23m loan obligation.

The players we will make biggest money on will be the ones we least want to sell starting with Brooks - £15m, then Kerkez £25m Billing 25m Solanke £50m and we'd need to use raised funds and saved money in wages to rebuild again to stay up, not easy.
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Yep, though I had thought about Billing and he has signed a new contract but think we will only get 15m for him and 10 for Brooks.
Good luck to Franno picking this one up.
 
kitso said:
Yep, though I had thought about Billing and he has signed a new contract but think we will only get 15m for him and 10 for Brooks.
Good luck to Franno picking this one up.
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Billing did sign last year and i think on his day he's worth about 25m. Brooks bit less because of how long he was out but still a talented player but Brooksy isn't as young as he looks he's 27 in summer.

Kerkez is only 20 I think we could even stretch 30m because of his potential
 
Billing for 25 million, really can't see that.

Marcondes to Hibs for 40 million is more likely.

Given Bill has his fingers in a few pies.

The up and comers are Kerkez and Zabarnyi.

If we ever wanted to sell Dom at his peak value, it would be now.

Don't want him to go, but financially it makes sense.

Don't think he would be any better than he is now in any other team.
 
dragonm8 said:
Billing for 25 million, really can't see that.

Marcondes to Hibs for 40 million is more likely.

Given Bill has his fingers in a few pies.

The up and comers are Kerkez and Zabarnyi.

If we ever wanted to sell Dom at his peak value, it would be now.

Don't want him to go, but financially it makes sense.

Don't think he would be any better than he is now in any other team.
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Believe me I wouldn't want to sell Dom either I think for what he does as an all rounder he's near impossible to replace.
But we will have a price, and since we came back up to PL i can't recall us selling anyone of significant money since we sold Danjuma and before that it was right after we went down we sold Ake, Wilson, Ramsdale for a total of £80m.
 
Always thought Wilson has been the best buy.

Almost unplayable at the height of his talents.

3 million from Coventry I believe.

Getting on a bit now, but in his prime unplayable.
 
dragonm8 said:
Always thought Wilson has been the best buy.

Almost unplayable at the height of his talents.

3 million from Coventry I believe.

Getting on a bit now, but in his prime unplayable.
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Completely agree, he was the first Bournemouth striker in my time that had it all. Everyone else had a weakness but Wilson was fast, strong, technical, great finisher, hard working and anything else you can think of.

In terms of the deal Grabban was a fantastic player for us but that we basically traded him for Wilson was a huge upgrade and arguably the business that made us title contenders.
 
Kudos said:
Completely agree, he was the first Bournemouth striker in my time that had it all. Everyone else had a weakness but Wilson was fast, strong, technical, great finisher, hard working and anything else you can think of.

In terms of the deal Grabban was a fantastic player for us but that we basically traded him for Wilson was a inepthuge upgrade and arguably the business that made us title contenders.
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Yes, Wilson was a fantastic player. Exciting to watch too, as explosive, 'put himself about'.

Looked inept relegation season though iirc.

Not sure if due to instructions, or had lost his appetite to play for us?
 
Selling Dom in the summer for the right price makes economic sense.

Kerkez and Zab need to stay for another season or two to fully get the right deal for them.

The rest of the players mentioned, don’t even make our squad with the exception of Brooks and Billing.

There’s a lot of dead wood to move on this summer.
 
We are certainly going to need to sell. The amount of incomings which has cost a fee in comparison to outgoings with a sale price worth registering is quite phenomenal.

The only sales since August 2021 that would have added something to the books would be Pearson and Siriki and that’s only a couple of million odd.

In regards to upcoming outgoings - Could be wrong but Lowe, Marcondes, Kilkenny -out of contract I believe so no fee there.

Rothwell - Sell and he’s a profit as a free transfer himself. But can’t see it being mouthwatering amounts of money. Moore will be worth a couple of million as well.

So the real income from transfers will be Traore, Kerez, Billing, Solanke. As it seems inevitable that they will go for varying reasons.
 
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