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RobTrent said:
Nice chap
www.independent.co.uk

Tory MP calls for ‘all wild animals’ to be culled

The MP also raised the case of ‘a beaver being released illegally… in west Dorset’
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A bit of an embarrassing headline but at least they included this direct quote:

“Culling has proved to work, and can I suggest that rather than talking about stopping culling on badgers and to introduce some other form, that all wild animals have to be culled.

“Because if they don’t their health deteriorates. They don’t have any predators in today’s world. Foxes, deer, badgers. We don’t want to wipe them out, we just simply want them controlled.

“This is just pure common sense.”

Whether culling is the right answer or not is up for debate but he categorically isn't calling for extermination of all wildlife as the headline is set up to imply.
 
Kudos said:
A bit of an embarrassing headline but at least they included this direct quote:

“Culling has proved to work, and can I suggest that rather than talking about stopping culling on badgers and to introduce some other form, that all wild animals have to be culled.

“Because if they don’t their health deteriorates. They don’t have any predators in today’s world. Foxes, deer, badgers. We don’t want to wipe them out, we just simply want them controlled.

“This is just pure common sense.”

Whether culling is the right answer or not is up for debate but he categorically isn't calling for extermination of all wildlife as the headline is set up to imply.
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Your quote includes the phrase that all wild animals have to be culled. Tough love yes?
 
This is typical Tory thinking and why the country is going to be better off when they're kicked into the wilderness. The science behind the badger cull is hopeless and is in place to appease cattle farmers who won't take any blame themselves. Beavers have been highly beneficial to the surrounding land where they have been reintroduced. The balance of wildlife is out because we eliminated bears, wolves and lynx and they should all be reintroduced to keep the deer population at normal levels. All over the grouse moors birds of prey are being illegally shot and poisoned so the rich can have their 'sport'. Grouse shooting is directly responsible for upland flooding. This guy understands the countryside as much as I understand nuclear physics.
 
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What do we believe?​

  • Scientific research should underpin sustainable conservation practice.
  • Game and wildlife management is the foundation of good conservation.
  • Field sports (in particular shooting and fishing) can contribute substantially to the conservation of landscape, habitat and wildlife.
  • Humane and targeted predator control is an essential part of effective game and wildlife conservation.
  • We utterly oppose those who engage in wildlife crime.
  • Good conservation goes hand-in-hand with economic land use.

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The argument put out by the landed gentry that killing 200,000 birds a day is good for wildlife would be laughable were it not so tragic. Scores of rare birds of prey are killed each year, mountain hares were wiped out in their thousands and ground nesting birds such as lapwings and skylarks have their nests routinely destroyed.
 
JIMNNINA said:
Cows and dogs kill more people than foxes and badgers,

Time to cull the irresponsible owners.
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UK cats kill 160 to 270 million animals annually.

Not sure why something sensible isn't being done to control the numbers of pets. Especially when animal shelters are brimming. It doesn't always need to be a cull.

Tories love a ill thought out population control plan, perhaps they could all be sent to Rwanda.
 
Domestic cats are the scourge of native wildlife. Australia knows how to deal with them. Sadly many cats get caught in snares laid by the grouse shooting industry to kill badgers, foxes, stoats etc.
 
stanthevan said:
The argument put out by the landed gentry that killing 200,000 birds a day is good for wildlife would be laughable were it not so tragic. Scores of rare birds of prey are killed each year, mountain hares were wiped out in their thousands and ground nesting birds such as lapwings and skylarks have their nests routinely destroyed.
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Not unknown for Gamekeepers to trap and kill birds of prey, illegal, but it happens
 
Red Sky said:
UK cats kill 160 to 270 million animals annually.

Not sure why something sensible isn't being done to control the numbers of pets. Especially when animal shelters are brimming. It doesn't always need to be a cull.

Tories love a ill thought out population control plan, perhaps they could all be sent to Rwanda.
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billythekid said:
That is happening unfortunately around the world at the moment with these different ‘wars’ going on, some not reported as much as others.
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Mankind has always been inclined toward a bit of culling, been going on since the world began, 6 thousand years ago :)
 
I'm giving some advice to a local arts centre regarding their land and how to improve things regarding the native flora and environment.

There was much talk of community gardens and improving biodiversity etc.
All was going well until somebody proudly announced that they had seen 12 deer on site that morning.

Wasn't that wonderful?

No.

Pretty much calls to a halt anything that was planned.

Went outside to look at the site and found everything but mature trees has been eaten.

Any kind of replanting will just be feeding the deer.

Deer fencing the entire site is impractical and would give it the ambiance of a concentration camp.
 
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