Adrian Durham : "Bournemouth Should Be Docked Points"

SlowDownDerek said:
They worked as hard as any game I can remember and very nearly got a point. Exactly what we needed after the previous result. I honestly can't believe this performance is getting more grief than arsenal.
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Where is this “we very nearly got a point “ no we didn’t , I may as well say we very nearly got smashed ...again , the only difference being city had the opportunities to do it whereas we didn’t ....
“ they worked as hard as any game I can remember “can’t remember seeing any players flat on their backs at the end if I’m honest .
 
wallmth said:
Where is this “we very nearly got a point “ no we didn’t , I may as well say we very nearly got smashed ...again , the only difference being city had the opportunities to do it whereas we didn’t ....
“ they worked as hard as any game I can remember “can’t remember seeing any players flat on their backs at the end if I’m honest .
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We nearly got a point because we only conceded one goal, which was a week near post effort that Boruc should have saved.

You can say we nearly got smashed but they struggled to break us down and we restricted them to only a few chances.

Ha, yeah they really strolled around the pitch didn't they.
 
RobTrent said:
Go on Neil, answer my point!
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I can’t make out what it is you want me to answer, happy to do so if you repeat!

Here is respected journalist Chris Bascombe in the Telegraph...

‘No ambition, no end product, no point...their players must have felt like training cones. Howes supporters might argue it was a successful damage limitation exercise and had Boruc been aware of his near post they may have secured a goalless draw...... they could say all of this and the rest of us will say 18% possession, seriously, what were you trying to do?’ In the interests of his reputation management Howe would be advised to get his message across to the bewildered masses sooner rather than later’.

I think, in this Brexit like debate on here, this is how half of us feel about our treatment of the beautiful game. The other half sit in the pragmatic camp. There is no right or wrong...it’s an interesting read and debate.
 
SlowDownDerek said:
We nearly got a point because we only conceded one goal, which was a week near post effort that Boruc should have saved.

You can say we nearly got smashed but they struggled to break us down and we restricted them to only a few chances.

Ha, yeah they really strolled around the pitch didn't they.
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I must have watched a different game ,because the one I saw was constant pressure and we were very lucky to concede just one . Of course normally in these discussions posters would go on about half chances we created but unfortunately of course there wasn’t any .
No they weren’t strolling around but really they didn’t bust a gut either other than Ake perhaps .
Anyway back to my point you didn’t answer , if this was one of our rivals we would be ripping it out of them wouldn’t we ?

Just read the quote Dawson put up ,hits the nail on the head .

I’m very proud of our team and we are far better than what was served up AT HOME on Saturday .
 
wallmth said:
I must have watched a different game ,because the one I saw was constant pressure and we were very lucky to concede just one . Of course normally in these discussions posters would go on about half chances we created but unfortunately of course there wasn’t any .
No they weren’t strolling around but really they didn’t bust a gut either other than Ake perhaps .
Anyway back to my point you didn’t answer , if this was one of our rivals we would be ripping it out of them wouldn’t we ?

Just read the quote Dawson put up ,hits the nail on the head .

I’m very proud of our team and we are far better than what was served up AT HOME on Saturday .
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I just don't agree at all. I can't see the performance as detached from the Arsenal performance, which I was absolutely appalled by. I wanted them to show some backbone and return to a strong committed defensive display, which they did with two youngsters at the back - none of these journos have taken the context of this performance into account and are only interested in basing their opinions on stats, which don't really tell the full story in my opinion.

Tbh I don't really care what other teams do against other teams other than to say that I wouldn't fancy watching a team that does that every week. I don't remember many taking the piss out of Newcastle when they had 20 odd percent possession against man city and they didn't take the game to them at all until they scored with a hopeful punt up the pitch - fair play to them too.
 
We’ll just agree to disagree then . Just to put the record straight I didn’t see the Arsenal game so in that context I am treating the city match as a stand alone game . If the **************** game was as bad as people say then Eddie should have demanded a reaction at home I don’t think the fans got it and I think it was an awful approach tactically to the game , we talk about player confidence ,those stats du jour that the pundits are creaming over can’t be helping player confidence any more than a game with a few more goals in it would have done .
 
I don’t know what your point is .Revenue doesn’t have his name on the back of a shirt ... city are a team in the same division as us ,we have beaten Manu Liverpool and Chelsea
It’s a handy excuse though whenever we perform poorly against one of the bigger teams ...strange though how we don’t bring it up when we get dumped out of the cup by a team without two pennies to rub together .
 
Question: How many on here who are bemoaning our performance on Saturday were thinking at half time "if we can keep that up for another 45 minutes we will have done well"?

I don't want to watch that kind of display every week - and I don't think we will.
I have attended the away matches at Tottenham over the last 2 seasons, and have heard their fans saying "I like Bournemouth - they don't come here and park the bus" - we lost both of those games 1-0 and 5-0. I didn't particularly enjoy losing either of those games.
 
I just don’t get the view of looking at these things in one game issolation.

Everything to do with Eddie Howe shows that things are done over time. This wasn’t a formation or a tactic that was dreamt up on Friday night and drawn up on a chalkboard at 2pm on Saturday.

This was a training exercise used for months on the training ground put into action on the pitch.

Howe doesn’t play for draws, look at our overall league tables in the lower leagues, very few draws.

The tactics and gameplan were to keep it tight for as long as possible and then chase a result in the final 15 minutes.

The defensive side worked, the attacking aspect didn’t.

No one is claiming this was a wonderful performance. They’ve just claimed it was a good tactical performance that an showed enough potential to be worth it again against the elite in the division.

It also showed the players working hard and giving their all, often what the fans want to see.

I don’t expect to see the same tactics at Huddersfield (could well be the same formation) and that’s the point we haven’t all of a sudden turned to anti football.

We’ve developed yet another plan, probably plan y to go along with all the other formations, systems and tactics we also utilise (but without having a plan b obviously..)

We’ll attempt it again when our own options for available players dictate and when the opposition cause those same problems.
 
I love the way Neil tries to add weight to a journalists view by putting the word "respected" in front. By whom Neil?

I couldn't give a flying feck what a journo who wasn't at the game wants to say about the stats. I came out of the match very pleased with the performance. Thats all I care about.


At the end of the day, I don't care how "respected" a journalist is, Bournemouth don't play for him. They dont play for radio shock jocks. They don't play for other teams. They play for me, they play for the fans and most I spoke to were happy.
 
Neil Dawson said:
I can’t make out what it is you want me to answer, happy to do so if you repeat!

Here is respected journalist Chris Bascombe in the Telegraph...

‘No ambition, no end product, no point...their players must have felt like training cones. Howes supporters might argue it was a successful damage limitation exercise and had Boruc been aware of his near post they may have secured a goalless draw...... they could say all of this and the rest of us will say 18% possession, seriously, what were you trying to do?’ In the interests of his reputation management Howe would be advised to get his message across to the bewildered masses sooner rather than later’.

I think, in this Brexit like debate on here, this is how half of us feel about our treatment of the beautiful game. The other half sit in the pragmatic camp. There is no right or wrong...it’s an interesting read and debate.
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I think you unintentionally answered it Neil. You cited a "respected" journalist who happens to agree with you, and rubbished a "respected" manager who doesn't.

Its a tactic you've used several times when I've gone against a player (or managers) opinion, and you question how dare I disagree with such a respected knowledgeable person (and the manager/player). ;-)

I enjoyed Saturdays game far, far more than I enjoyed Wednesdays.
 
punkrockcherry said:
Question: How many on here who are bemoaning our performance on Saturday were thinking at half time "if we can keep that up for another 45 minutes we will have done well"?

I don't want to watch that kind of display every week - and I don't think we will.
I have attended the away matches at Tottenham over the last 2 seasons, and have heard their fans saying "I like Bournemouth - they don't come here and park the bus" - we lost both of those games 1-0 and 5-0. I didn't particularly enjoy losing either of those games.
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...spot on, although I wouldn't want us to employ those tactics too often. I was pleased to see that Eddie had concentrated on defending better, as it is certainly a priority for the future. We saw Simpson and Mepham have good match experience, as fans we have to see the bigger picture. I also don't enjoy watching us getting stuffed with our more cavalier play at times. After the Arsenal game I feared a right tonking but up to the end we were still in the game against the best team in The PL IMO...
 
RobTrent said:
I think you unintentionally answered it Neil. You cited a "respected" journalist who happens to agree with you, and rubbished a "respected" manager who doesn't.

Its a tactic you've used several times when I've gone against a player (or managers) opinion, and you question how dare I disagree with such a respected knowledgeable person (and the manager/player). ;-)

I enjoyed Saturdays game far, far more than I enjoyed Wednesdays.
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I didn’t enjoy either game! But for different reasons...

To put the record straight I haven’t rubbished Pep. Not sure anyone could with his record. I merely speculated that he was using this performance to boost team morale of a very exhausted (again his words) and injury hit team on a monster three front run in. You will not find any Man City fan that thinks this is even close to being their top performance. I would imagine that come his autobiography, neither will Pep. I don’t know this of course but neither do you know he meant it. What we do know is all managers use kidology, our own is a specialist in it.

I can’t remember any examples of where I have used a managers words against you but I would imagine they were situations where kidology wasn’t necessary else I would have spotted it. Can you remember them?
 
TalkSport - what Durham said was just crazy. As per usual, he goes WAY OTT to try and whip up callers. Simple as that. He's one of those shock jocks if you like, which is a shame as he's ok when just presenting the goals on a Saturday [ the only time I would ever tune in to the station ]. While I can handle him questioning the performance, to say it was a disgrace and points should be deducted is just ludicrous. It just shows a lack of knowledge of the actual game itself. Obviously Eddie didn't try to not have a shot, its just how it went.

As for the Telegraph write up.....Neil, your head needs to take a wobble....how on earth is that bloke a respected journalist?! Its a terrible report no better than Durham's rant!

I really think the feedback from certain aspects of the media has been a massive over reaction to what was, at the end of the day, a fantastic performance from Man City, to allow us no time to try and implement our plan to hit them on the break. We were one scuffed goal away from a point and limited City to just seven shots on goal themselves, many of which didn't trouble Artur too much.
 
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