fritter
UTC Legend
i posted this in January.
‘A while ago I posted that teams who stay for more than 3 or 4 seasons risk turning into West Brom or Stoke to stay up. The impetus of promotion can maintain positive, attractive football for a time. The energy that teams have when they come up is hard to maintain. So some clubs go through periods of crisis, sack their manager, do ok, repeat. Great to see wolves and Sheffield United doing so well, but it's very early days. Our transition from team that came up to new team has failed. The newer players are different to those that came up because they were never part of the journey that took players from being cast offs to premier league players. There is nothing to strive for. Players earn more than most could ever imagine and if we go down they will have their agents hawking them around. I don't blame them, it's how it is.
Eddie's challenge was always to build a team to stay in the premier league. Very few managers achieve that. How many managers outside of the established 7 have managed a team for 5 consecutive seasons in the premier league? Probably none? And the 'top 7' have all had at least one change of manager in the last 5 seasons.
Southampton have been in the PL for 8 seasons and have had 8 managers. West Ham also for 8 seasons and have had 5 managers, one of them twice. Palace here for 7 seasons and had 6 managers, plus 2 spells with a caretaker manager. Leicester here for 6 seasons, 5 managers plus 2 caretaker managers. Next is us in our 5th season.
So Eddie is an anomaly. A manager that has been supported by the board for 4 and a half seasons. Maybe being a long term (more than 5 seasons?) manager is just not possible any more? That to stay in the PL will require a new manager. Maybe a regular change of manager. Perhaps that's what keeps players on their toes? New manager no longer guarantees a place in the team so players have to show up or ship out. That will cost the club as contracts have to be honoured. Manager and staff paid off. I know statistics don't prove anything, but it does show that remaining a PL manager for 5 consecutive seasons is a rare thing.
Whatever happens. Whatever the board decide. These 10 years or so have been incredible. Eddie the best manager of all time. Sacking, resignation and/ or relegation won't change that. And that's a fact.’
I’d add now that the performance Saturday just reinforces what I wrote then. Maybe Leicester have established themselves? Maybe. That makes 8 teams as long term top division teams. I don’t think Southampton, Burnley or Palace have that status yet. Sheffield United and Wolves are doing brilliantly but they need to sustain it. I feel Wolves might but don’t see Sheffield doing the same. We really have gone backwards.
I watch Harry Wilson and Lewis Cook and honestly wonder whether they are any better than Arter and Pugh/Ritchie would be. I mean now rather than in the past. We so lack a collective hunger and belief. I hope they prove me wrong but I can’t see anything other than a heavy defeat at Wolves.
I have said many times that all I want to see is 11 blokes giving their all, doing their best. Win, lose or draw I’ll applaud them. i don’t care how talented the squad are individually, it doesn’t matter. It’s about what you do for the team.
Would bringing in a couple of youngsters help? Would they show any more commitment and passion? They don’t have experience but it seems experience isn’t benefiting the team at the moment. One thing is sure, if we persist in sitting back and trying to play on the break we won’t win three more games, which is the minimum needed I reckon.
If Eddie goes, and I think he is more likely to leave than be sacked, there is the issue of disentangling the whole AFC Bournemouth football staff family. They have all grown together. No new management team will want the whole ex player backroom staff. Will they?
What’s the answer? No idea. I just don’t want to sit through any more god awful performances and watch Southampton send us down.
That is definitely the worst case scenario.
HELP!
‘A while ago I posted that teams who stay for more than 3 or 4 seasons risk turning into West Brom or Stoke to stay up. The impetus of promotion can maintain positive, attractive football for a time. The energy that teams have when they come up is hard to maintain. So some clubs go through periods of crisis, sack their manager, do ok, repeat. Great to see wolves and Sheffield United doing so well, but it's very early days. Our transition from team that came up to new team has failed. The newer players are different to those that came up because they were never part of the journey that took players from being cast offs to premier league players. There is nothing to strive for. Players earn more than most could ever imagine and if we go down they will have their agents hawking them around. I don't blame them, it's how it is.
Eddie's challenge was always to build a team to stay in the premier league. Very few managers achieve that. How many managers outside of the established 7 have managed a team for 5 consecutive seasons in the premier league? Probably none? And the 'top 7' have all had at least one change of manager in the last 5 seasons.
Southampton have been in the PL for 8 seasons and have had 8 managers. West Ham also for 8 seasons and have had 5 managers, one of them twice. Palace here for 7 seasons and had 6 managers, plus 2 spells with a caretaker manager. Leicester here for 6 seasons, 5 managers plus 2 caretaker managers. Next is us in our 5th season.
So Eddie is an anomaly. A manager that has been supported by the board for 4 and a half seasons. Maybe being a long term (more than 5 seasons?) manager is just not possible any more? That to stay in the PL will require a new manager. Maybe a regular change of manager. Perhaps that's what keeps players on their toes? New manager no longer guarantees a place in the team so players have to show up or ship out. That will cost the club as contracts have to be honoured. Manager and staff paid off. I know statistics don't prove anything, but it does show that remaining a PL manager for 5 consecutive seasons is a rare thing.
Whatever happens. Whatever the board decide. These 10 years or so have been incredible. Eddie the best manager of all time. Sacking, resignation and/ or relegation won't change that. And that's a fact.’
I’d add now that the performance Saturday just reinforces what I wrote then. Maybe Leicester have established themselves? Maybe. That makes 8 teams as long term top division teams. I don’t think Southampton, Burnley or Palace have that status yet. Sheffield United and Wolves are doing brilliantly but they need to sustain it. I feel Wolves might but don’t see Sheffield doing the same. We really have gone backwards.
I watch Harry Wilson and Lewis Cook and honestly wonder whether they are any better than Arter and Pugh/Ritchie would be. I mean now rather than in the past. We so lack a collective hunger and belief. I hope they prove me wrong but I can’t see anything other than a heavy defeat at Wolves.
I have said many times that all I want to see is 11 blokes giving their all, doing their best. Win, lose or draw I’ll applaud them. i don’t care how talented the squad are individually, it doesn’t matter. It’s about what you do for the team.
Would bringing in a couple of youngsters help? Would they show any more commitment and passion? They don’t have experience but it seems experience isn’t benefiting the team at the moment. One thing is sure, if we persist in sitting back and trying to play on the break we won’t win three more games, which is the minimum needed I reckon.
If Eddie goes, and I think he is more likely to leave than be sacked, there is the issue of disentangling the whole AFC Bournemouth football staff family. They have all grown together. No new management team will want the whole ex player backroom staff. Will they?
What’s the answer? No idea. I just don’t want to sit through any more god awful performances and watch Southampton send us down.
That is definitely the worst case scenario.
HELP!
