AFCBade
UTC Legend
No one other player touched it after handball
Ouattara non goal
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BoscombeCherry
First Team
It is still never a foul. Take the cherry tints off for two seconds and you'll see it. Onana was not out of control, it wasn't dangerous, studs weren't up, he tackled side on. Dango was unfortunate, that's all.
Would you be happy for us to concede a penalty with goalkeeping like that?
zigger zaggar
Star Player
I genuinely don't know what you're trying to say.
DJ
Moderator
If the goalscorer has touched the ball with their arm/hand prior to scoring, they’ll disallow it. If he stops the ball on the goal line and Kerkez comes along drops to his knees and heads it over, like we all did in the playground, then it would stand.
But he didn’t have the foresight to do that so he deserved it to be disallowed quite frankly…
zigger zaggar
Star Player
Yea basically if they handle the ball and score tough luck but if x sets up or play a part then the ref has to be deci if it was deliberate or not so could a player get away with it.
Confusing and very messy ?
This all started after a couple of goals which were accidental handballs but deemed unfair to allow ..
One example here :
WATCH: Should Sergio Aguero's third goal against Arsenal have stood?
The Sky Sports pundits could not agree on whether Sergio Agueros third goal in Manchester Citys 3-1 win over Arsenal should have stood after the ball appeared go into the net off his arm.
And I will admit this was definitely hardball !
Abdoulaye Doucouré hands Watford controversial draw with Southampton
Southampton led 2-0 thanks to James Ward-Prowse’s double but a late Watford rally denied the Saints a first win in 10 league games, with the equaliser for 2-2 handled over the line
www.theguardian.com
Trouble is now VAR looks at literally everything and tries to to find fault.
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zigger zaggar
Star Player
Don't really want to go on and on about this too much BUT the Aguero one is very different as the last touch was clearly his forearm. Dango's merely brushed his fingertip whilst he was trying not to fall over before his last touch which was his right boot. The accidental flick on his fingertips did not cause the ball to change it's course or give him any advantage whatsoever. As I said a ridiculous decision.Yea basically if they handle the ball and score tough luck but if x sets up or play a part then the ref has to be deci if it was deliberate or not so could a player get away with it.
Confusing and very messy ?
This all started after a couple of goals which were accidental handballs but deemed unfair to allow ..
One example here :
WATCH: Should Sergio Aguero's third goal against Arsenal have stood?
The Sky Sports pundits could not agree on whether Sergio Agueros third goal in Manchester Citys 3-1 win over Arsenal should have stood after the ball appeared go into the net off his arm.www.skysports.com
And I will admit this was definitely hardball !
Abdoulaye Doucouré hands Watford controversial draw with Southampton
Southampton led 2-0 thanks to James Ward-Prowse’s double but a late Watford rally denied the Saints a first win in 10 league games, with the equaliser for 2-2 handled over the line
Trouble is now VAR looks at literally everything and tries to to find fault.
AFCBade
UTC Legend
Are you drunk? What’s confusing about this?
No other player touched the ball after the handball ie led directly to dango scoring
If someone else handled and dango then scored then might be allowed - like West Ham volleyball goal - but scorer can’t handle it
zigger zaggar
Star Player
No I am not drunk. What does "No one other player touched it after handball" mean? You also said "You are right but I meant last touch from player who scores" Dango's last touch was with his right foot.
Kudos
UTC Legend
If it was dangerous it would be considered a red card.
I'm fairly certain if you slide through the ball and a player it's a foul anywhere on the pitch as being careless.
Dango was too honest, if he made contact and went down instead of losing balance by vaulting the challenge he'd have won a penalty and got the 'keeper yellow carded for DCGSO.
BoscombeCherry
First Team
It will come down to force used in the tackle. If Onana had come out, studs up, both feet off the floor then year, I'd get that absolutely. Regardless of him catching Dango, he's still come out safely, won the ball then clipped him. Take this into the middle of the park and it wouldn't even be discussed. I don't think there's a scenario where the ref gives that challenge as a foul and rightly so.
LewSwimmin
Star Player
Under the current Alice-in-Wonderland interpretations of handball Dango can consider himself lucky not to be booked for denying himself of a clear goalscoring opportunity.
I thought the same. Because of that, every player in Maguire's (I think) position would say "Had it not changed direction I would have had a chance to block/tackle the ball".
Even if he had no chance there's the not knowing for sure. For the record I believe it should have stood, but like a lot of things in football, where do you draw the line?
I also agree it's incredibly harsh, but by the letter of the law as it now stands it is the 'correct' decision. Thank god it happened at 3-0 and not 0-0...
New Forest Cherry
Star Player
the fact we've argued it for four pages confirms its bonkers
Kudos
UTC Legend
Again you're describing a dangerous tackle which is a red card offence.
Getting the balls doesn't give you license to take out the player as well.
SlowDownDerek
UTC Legend
Isn't it his right hand that touches the ball rather than his left. First contact after it hits the keeper is hip/thigh?
