Newcastle Away

Why is it not possible at DC to get extra seats when the away fans don't take up their allocation...........BTW how many tickets have Swansea sold ??
Don't think you could wear a ten gallon hat at DC, heath and safety risk, like water bottles and umbrellas.
 
Jim Frevola said:
The schedule and returns timing is subject to the league processes. Been that way for years I’m told. Sitting with friends with lower points was possible for this fixture as we did reach the 1+ points drop. So anyone with points on the +1 drop had access to tickets to sit with friends. Unfortunately it only impacted general sale. And had we had indication we could double our sales after all 13,000 away points holders had access, we would have. Every match for the bigger away grounds and allotments, this is always a possibility. Sales demand will need to be there to justify taking the largest allotments. We’d love it every match to be full.
I agree, shame about the hat. I’ll have to research.
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Fair play for providing more detail on the club's thought process Jim. Wouldn't it be possible to set the points drop deadlines to make sure there is a week of general sale tickets before this PL one month deadline? There are lots of points holders waiting for general sale tickets so they can sit with their pointless mates. It's a very popular piss up fixture afterall.
 
corfe_red said:
Why is it not possible at DC to get extra seats when the away fans don't take up their allocation...........BTW how many tickets have Swansea sold ??
Don't think you could wear a ten gallon hat at DC, heath and safety risk, like water bottles and umbrellas.
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You can't split the concourse and the home east Stand concourse doesn't have enough capacity to have more home fans.
 
corfe_red said:
Why is it not possible at DC to get extra seats when the away fans don't take up their allocation...........BTW how many tickets have Swansea sold ??
Don't think you could wear a ten gallon hat at DC, heath and safety risk, like water bottles and umbrellas.
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Because our ground has severe logistical issues with segregation ability. The east stand home concession concourse can’t really handle jamming more home fans into it if we took back a block of the away end. That said we are looking into it. It’s something we would fix in a potential new stadium. As for your question about how many Swansea have sold - At this point since we haven’t sold out our own home end yet and we have hit general sale, I’m more concerned and focused on that than their away end.
 
corfe_red said:
Why is it not possible at DC to get extra seats when the away fans don't take up their allocation...........BTW how many tickets have Swansea sold ??
Don't think you could wear a ten gallon hat at DC, heath and safety risk, like water bottles and umbrellas.
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Segregation isn't just about seats.
 
Kinson Cherry said:
If this shirt was royal blue, it definitely wasn't a 'one-off' kit. I saw us wearing this away at least a couple of times in 74/75 and somewhere there is TV footage of us in a game during 73/74 wearing it. Possibly one of Bond's last games, as our line up definitely included Machin and Bo
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That's interesting, any idea which games they were?
 
afcdibby said:
How many people do you genuinely believe we could take up there?
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I think we would have done the 2,200. Sure we could've shifted another 1,000 tickets in a month. I accept we wouldn't do the full allocation of 3,200, but that wasn't an option anyway.
 
Don't you just love it when the American capitalist* theme park rolls into town?

Don't you really appreciate that when you read an explanation from the man, he tells you it's not the company, it's you, the customers who are at fault?

Supply doesn't meet demand because the market works best when commodoties are scarce (fundamental economics). Politics works best when you can get away with exactly what you are accusing the other bloke of doing.

I can choose not to buy coffee from Starbucks, go to a competitor or not consume coffee at all. Here, what choice do I have?








*not meant in any left/right debate style but in the descriptive sense that 'we put our money in, we run the business.'
 
Jim Frevola said:
A few things to understand about the Newcastle ticket situation. We announced an initial allocation of up to 2,200 tickets for the fixture at Newcastle. However, we are required to provide a final allocation selection to the host club a month prior to the match. A purchase opportunity was offered to all Cherries supporters with away points earned the last 2 seasons (over 13,000 people). After all 13,000 away supporters with points had the option, we had only sold 1,100 tickets. By the time we had to decide per Premier League rules to return tickets, to commit to another roughly 1,000+ tickets that the club would be largely financially responsible for if they went unsold after already going on sale to all 13,000 Cherries supporters with away points was not supported by the data available to us. This data includes an open survey we sent to points holders at the start of the season to gauge demand for away fixtures, and our sales total for the Newcastle fixture last season (1,114).

Every supporter with an away point over the last 2 years had an opportunity to purchase this fixture before the club reached the deadline to return tickets. It would have been irresponsible of us to have taken that risk based on all the data, past history, and the fact less than 10% (1,100) out of 13,000 away points holders purchased for the match.

This year we have made it a priority to get as many away tickets in our supporters hands as possible. We have seen many more matches where we have taken larger blocks this season versus last season. This one just didn’t logically make sense to do.

On an unrelated note, I don’t even own a cowboy hat, the ex-copper doesn’t carry a clipboard, and Nick is absolutely a supremo.

Up the Cherries!
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If the choice was between 2200 and 1100 tickets then I can sort of understand it.

However, clubs (including Bournemouth - see below) have in the past been allocated 1600 (3 blocks rather than 2 or 4). That would seem about right, and there is zero doubt in my mind that we’d have sold this. It seems we’ve been bullied by NUFC into suggesting there are only 2 options, 2200 or 1100. We should have gone back to Newcastle and said we’ll have the same allocation as in prior years please, 1600. Other clubs have done this this season. We did it in prior years.

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Ticket information for AFC Bournemouth's November trip to Newcastle is now available.
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It is also mentioned that all point holders had a chance to buy. Not sure I fully agree with this, the game sold out hours after dropping from 3 points to 1 and within minutes of the drop there were very few tickets left together. Lots of people were waiting for the next block to open, as the original article on the website had at no point suggested there was a risk that only 2 blocks would ever open.

Also to suggest that one of the data points was how many we took last season is crazy, as we had the same issue then! If we use that logic for the new stadium then the perfect capacity is 11500 as we’ve never had more than that turn up to the current stadium!! Who knows, maybe that explains the underwhelming 18500 we’re aiming for.
 
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Kinson Cherry said:
If this shirt was royal blue, it definitely wasn't a 'one-off' kit. I saw us wearing this away at least a couple of times in 74/75 and somewhere there is TV footage of us in a game during 73/74 wearing it. Possibly one of Bond's last games, as our line up definitely included Machin and Boyer
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We wore it a York or Walsall

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Kinson Cherry said:
If this shirt was royal blue, it definitely wasn't a 'one-off' kit. I saw us wearing this away at least a couple of times in 74/75 and somewhere there is TV footage of us in a game during 73/74 wearing it. Possibly one of Bond's last games, as our line up definitely included Machin and Boyer
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Boyer scored if that’s the correct game.
 
Jim Frevola said:
Because our ground has severe logistical issues with segregation ability. The east stand home concession concourse can’t really handle jamming more home fans into it if we took back a block of the away end. That said we are looking into it.
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During the 2015 season, we looked into opening the block closest to the south stand for home supporters, with those fans entering the ground via the south stand turnstiles and using that concourse.

Genuinely cannot remember if we actually did it or not?! Certainly didn’t do it for the Bolton game which saw us clinch promotion which was a real shame.

But that does highlight how few times it’s needed to be thought about as an option…
 
DJ said:
During the 2015 season, we looked into opening the block closest to the south stand for home supporters, with those fans entering the ground via the south stand turnstiles and using that concourse.

Genuinely cannot remember if we actually did it or not?! Certainly didn’t do it for the Bolton game which saw us clinch promotion which was a real shame.

But that does highlight how few times it’s needed to be thought about as an option…
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I thought we did do it for the Bolton game? We certainly did it for a few games, I remember those tickets going on sale.
 
Jim Frevola said:
A few things to understand about the Newcastle ticket situation. We announced an initial allocation of up to 2,200 tickets for the fixture at Newcastle. However, we are required to provide a final allocation selection to the host club a month prior to the match. A purchase opportunity was offered to all Cherries supporters with away points earned the last 2 seasons (over 13,000 people). After all 13,000 away supporters with points had the option, we had only sold 1,100 tickets. By the time we had to decide per Premier League rules to return tickets, to commit to another roughly 1,000+ tickets that the club would be largely financially responsible for if they went unsold after already going on sale to all 13,000 Cherries supporters with away points was not supported by the data available to us. This data includes an open survey we sent to points holders at the start of the season to gauge demand for away fixtures, and our sales total for the Newcastle fixture last season (1,114).

Every supporter with an away point over the last 2 years had an opportunity to purchase this fixture before the club reached the deadline to return tickets. It would have been irresponsible of us to have taken that risk based on all the data, past history, and the fact less than 10% (1,100) out of 13,000 away points holders purchased for the match.

This year we have made it a priority to get as many away tickets in our supporters hands as possible. We have seen many more matches where we have taken larger blocks this season versus last season. This one just didn’t logically make sense to do.

On an unrelated note, I don’t even own a cowboy hat, the ex-copper doesn’t carry a clipboard, and Nick is absolutely a supremo.

Up the Cherries!
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Thank you for popping on and outlining the club's thinking Jim.

It may have been before your time, but if memory serves a similar decison was made for Newcastle away last season, meaning the 1100 sold was not representative of what could have been sold if uncapped. So I would argue it is not a good example to gauge demand for the following year - also at a time when results and performaces are fantastic!

I appreciate that batches of 1000 makes it awkward, and had there been an option for say 1500 that might have been ideal. But seems not in this instance.

May I suggest that the ticket release comms clearly remind us all that an allocation may be reduced subsequent to opening sales. Encourages us all to get organised and buy sooner instead of waiting, for example a better block to open up, weigh travel options, or trying to buy with lower point holding friends.
 
ErikthViking said:
Don't you just love it when the American capitalist* theme park rolls into town?

Don't you really appreciate that when you read an explanation from the man, he tells you it's not the company, it's you, the customers who are at fault?

Supply doesn't meet demand because the market works best when commodoties are scarce (fundamental economics). Politics works best when you can get away with exactly what you are accusing the other bloke of doing.

I can choose not to buy coffee from Starbucks, go to a competitor or not consume coffee at all. Here, what choice do I have?








*not meant in any left/right debate style but in the descriptive sense that 'we put our money in, we run the business.'
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Erick,
It’s lazy (and a tad offensive to me, I’m human, I just happened to be born where I was) to blame it on the American capitalist theme, especially as the club doesn’t keep any revenue on away ticket sales, don’t you think? After 13,000 supporters (all amazing btw) had the ability to purchase, those that for the last two years came to an away match, had the chance to buy and we sold 1,100 seats can we honestly say “let’s take on another 1,100 seats”? We have gone to general sale numerous times this year for away seats. Plenty of opportunities to get an away point before Newcastle. How can anyone justify that it is logical we’d sell the same amount of seats (1,100) to people who haven’t even bought 1 away ticket in 2 seasons? Maybe it’s the fact it’s the farthest away match? It’s hard to get to? Idk, but banking on general sale to out buy 13,000 die hard amazing away supporters is just not right. All I’m trying to do is explain the process as honestly, and openly as we can. Communication is important. I’ve shown the willingness to address tough topics, easy topics, etc. Let’s move on and get 3 points today!
 
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