Gary O'Neil

New Old Cherry said:
Iraola has had two bad spells so far this season and one very good spell...likewise the players as a team....individually the players are much varied in terms of good and bad spells....the team selections haven't been set regular or consistent in any way ......plus better players have been sent out on loan...namely Brooks, Rothwell and Anthony; Anthony being the most bizarre loan imo...the Rothwell loan quite displeasing when you weigh up his assets..the Brooks one I guess is forgivable on the fitness front....but hardly on that destination !
So basically the Jury is still out on the Iraola appointment...or it should be....
The odds are that he will ultimately be seen as successful in May whatever the position of safety....and it IS his 1st season in the PL..
I really hope it ends well because we need the continuity to progress next season.
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So, I’ll try asking again and see if you answer

Which of Cook/Christie are you dropping for Rothwell (who can’t get in the starting XI for a Championship side)?
 
adam0102 said:
So, I’ll try asking again and see if you answer

Which of Cook/Christie are you dropping for Rothwell (who can’t get in the starting XI for a Championship side)?
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Asking again ? ..oh did you ask before ? ..sorry if i'm f√cking compelled to answer you..but neglected that duty !
Rothwell was a good back up for both...what f√ck is wrong with that...not as if Lewis hasn't been injured before !!!
Christie works extremely hard..maybe needs a break before the end of season !
 
New Old Cherry said:
Rothwell was a good back up for both...what f√ck is wrong with that...not as if Lewis hasn't been injured before !!!
Christie works extremely hard..maybe needs a break before the end of season !
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I’m guessing that the thing that’s fckng wrong is that Rothwell isn’t deemed good enough for a team in a lower division to us and has shown in his time with us that he’s probably not quite good enough for the PL
 
adam0102 said:
I’m guessing that the thing that’s fckng wrong is that Rothwell isn’t deemed good enough for a team in a lower division to us and has shown in his time with us that he’s probably not quite good enough for the PL
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It's early days for him there. Bit early to judge whether he can/can't get in their team. He played a blinded of a match, then a terrible one, got benched and hasn't started since. He will likely get a chance to start again, though unless Martin has also written him off this early.
 
New Old Cherry said:
We haven't Won in 7 league games since the Fulham 3-0...so obviously something has gone wrong...hence my moaning sh*t...I think some complacency was induced by the win at Old Trafford...I could be wrong , I often am.
Tomorrow and the two following games will tell us a lot .
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I think it could be argued that GON was a bit lucky getting his first managerial job with us in the Prem, rather than having to start out with a lower league club.

He took his chance though and most importantly managed to keep us up - albeit that we did seem to go beach mode as soon as it was apparant that we were safe!

However, GON's tendency to sit back and defend a lead in games is, IMHO, simply not the Boscombe way - so as harsh as it seemed to the outside world in letting him go it was probably best for both parties at that time.

GON left with a Prem manager's job on his CV, no doubt a decent pay off and has now enhanced his managerial reputation with another Prem club.

We benefitted by staying up and then by subsequently appointing a new up and coming manager whose style of play is IMHO more the Boscombe way.

A win win situation for both GON and Boscombe IMHO. That's why I think we should be looking forwards rather than back.

Surely (touch wood) it would have to take a bizarre series of results to get us relegated from where we stand at the mo!
 
Well done to Gary who works incredibly hard to get results with his teams…he would have learned a lot as he moves forward. It wasn’t great having to sack him at AFCB but I still think it was the correct decision based on us as a team evolving better to consolidate PL football.
I don’t know the future but Wolves and us will be battling it out next season IMO…maybe Gary will achieve more this time around?
 
I fail to understand what is a 'Boscombe..or Bournemouth Way'
- from What Period ? Which Managers ? Which Fans ?

Is there an Arsenal way ? ; Or a Crewe Alexandra Way....or a Portsmouth Way ...or Scunthorpe or Paris St Germain Way....or Weymouth Way...or Inter Milan Way ?....or Tranmere ?
Goal Posts...Corner Flags.....Feet.... Ball... Get it and Go !
 
adam0102 said:
I’m guessing that the thing that’s fckng wrong is that Rothwell isn’t deemed good enough for a team in a lower division to us and has shown in his time with us that he’s probably not quite good enough for the PL
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Are all the others...or any of them apart from say Brooks ?
 
New Old Cherry said:
I fail to understand what is a 'Boscombe..or Bournemouth Way'
- from What Period ? Which Managers ? Which Fans ?

Is there an Arsenal way ? ; Or a Crewe Alexandra Way....or a Portsmouth Way ...or Scunthorpe or Paris St Germain Way....or Weymouth Way...or Inter Milan Way ?....or Tranmere ?
Goal Posts...Corner Flags.....Feet.... Ball... Get it and Go !
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I think that the Boscombe way is NOT to defend the six yard box if we go 1-0 up after two minutes plus!

Parker got lucky doing that, in that Travers (one of the must underated keepers IMHO) made vital save after save in the process of us getting promotion from the Championship!

GON seems to have copied that style and probably didn't in the process of doing so realise how lucky Parker was doing that!
 
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After fine counterattacking goals from Alexander Isak, Anthony Gordon and Tino Livramento secured Newcastle a 3-0 home win against Wolves a verbal contest kicked off. While the visiting manager, Gary O’Neil, claimed his side’s dominance of possession was down to their “quality” and the defeat attributable to “bad errors”, Eddie Howe maintained Newcastle’s first clean sheet and home victory of 2024 was all about “tactical change”. Few locals would disagree; in place of the gung-ho high press that, in recent weeks, led to the concession of far too many goals, Newcastle retreated into safety first, contain and counter, mode. With the right-back Kieran Trippier rarely venturing over the halfway line and the latterly vulnerable left-back Dan Burn well protected by Joe Willock, Fabian Schär was able to showcase stellar distribution skills as he created three goals from central defence. O’Neil remained insistent that Howe choreographs teams one way but, for once, he got it, largely, wrong. Louise Taylor
 
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After fine counterattacking goals from Alexander Isak, Anthony Gordon and Tino Livramento secured Newcastle a 3-0 home win against Wolves a verbal contest kicked off. While the visiting manager, Gary O’Neil, claimed his side’s dominance of possession was down to their “quality” and the defeat attributable to “bad errors”, Eddie Howe maintained Newcastle’s first clean sheet and home victory of 2024 was all about “tactical change”. Few locals would disagree; in place of the gung-ho high press that, in recent weeks, led to the concession of far too many goals, Newcastle retreated into safety first, contain and counter, mode. With the right-back Kieran Trippier rarely venturing over the halfway line and the latterly vulnerable left-back Dan Burn well protected by Joe Willock, Fabian Schär was able to showcase stellar distribution skills as he created three goals from central defence. O’Neil remained insistent that Howe choreographs teams one way but, for once, he got it, largely, wrong. Louise Taylor
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Haven’t seen the game. But that pretty much sounds like when Howe, during both stints, would hit the reset button and go back to basics. He’d do it when a string of results would go against us, he’d hit a button, slate wiped clean, back to basics, uncomplicated football and build again.

If O’Neil truly thinks Howe “choreographs teams one way” then I’d question what he’s been watching for 15 years.
 
"It was a slight tweak from our normal way of playing. We analyse our opposition like we do always and I know there's a lot of people that say we play the same way every week and I can assure you that's not the case, there's always tweaks and that was one today to play maybe a little bit more transitional."
When asked directly about O'Neil's comments and whether it was a tactic to sit deep and let Wolves have the ball, Howe added: "Yeah, we changed things tactically."

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'No way' - Eddie Howe disagrees with Wolves manager's claim about NUFC after 3-0 win

Newcastle United 3-0 Wolverhampton Wanderers: Eddie Howe has reacted to his side's convincing win at St James' Park on Saturday afternoon.
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Sounds like Gaz was just out thought, perhaps it’ll show up on his post match analysis.
 
He'll have to learn to deal with this tactic as more teams are going to set up this way against them now that Brentford and Newcastle have shown that O'Neill doesn't have a clue how to play against it.
 
DJ said:
Haven’t seen the game. But that pretty much sounds like when Howe, during both stints, would hit the reset button and go back to basics. He’d do it when a string of results would go against us, he’d hit a button, slate wiped clean, back to basics, uncomplicated football and build again.
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My dad always said ‘Surman will be back in next week’ as that was always the other thing that happened when Eddie went back to basics.
 
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