Match report v Forest

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--- Bournemouth Fire, Forest Expire ---

After Saturday’s exhilarating comeback, this evening saw the return To Dean Court of one of AFCB’s favourite sons in Harry Arter playing for a Forest team who just missed out on the play offs last season.

With that, Forest almost got off to a flier with a wild Harry Arter shot on two minutes. However, this was immediately followed by Brooks getting on the ball near the halfway line and spotting a glorious Stanislas diagonal run from the left of the halfway line to the right center of the Forest box. Brooks played a ball of which Euclid would have been proud, landing it to the mm into Junior’s run who took a touch and slotted past the onrushing keeper.

1-0 and crucially we’d exposed space in the Forest backline with one incisive pass. Their response was to hunker down in their own half like a team of doomsday preppers to avoid any possible repeat whilst maybe catching us unawares with an occasional forage for food.

There shouldn’t be any surprise in that, Hughton has made a career out of being effective if not pretty and he always looks to start that from a well organised defensive shape.

Bournemouth’s dominance of possession was characterised by constant passing and moving with players always showing for the pass and trying to find pockets of space in which to work. When it worked it was something to behold but the problem, as with the first half on Saturday, was it too often lacked the vertical thrust to cause damage and instead regularly moved side to side.

It did feel better than the Reading first 45, with Brooks the outstanding contributor often looking to glide past defenders in central or inside forward positions to break their shape. That’s where we looked our most dangerous.

Adam Smith, in for Stacey who picked up a knock at the weekend, made plenty of lung busting runs but was more often than not used as a decoy or completely ignored by his teammates. On the other side Kelly seemed a little more circumspect in his forays forward but that may be down to worrying that Danjuma doesn’t have quite the same defensive industry that Brooks shows when called upon to get back.

Chances were at a premium but on 14 minutes Danjuma sold Christie a glorious dummy, the ebay equivalent of getting an empty box instead of the expected ipad in the post, and burst into the area. With the angle narrowing he chose to try and poke it into the near post rather than cut it back to the wide open Brooks and the effort was saved. Hard to criticise him being selfish given his recent goal scoring form but it should have been two.

Forest’s single chance of note in the opening 45 was when Taylor got the wrong side of Mepham only to loop his header from a good cross nowhere near the goal.

The ref had a slightly odd half. Yates went heavily into L Cook and also separately pulled Lerma back, Ribeiro went straight through Brooks and Arter hacked Smith but all four clear yellows somehow escaped proper censure.

It was a period that had seen some fine Cherries play but not much created when, in the second minute of injury time, that man Brooks tricked his way to the byline and cut back. With the goal like a gaping maw before him, Stanislas was unable to feed it with his shot cleared off the line at the last moment by the impressive McKenna.

Half time and with Forest defending so thickly it had been like trying to play the ball through, well, a forest. Still, so far so good.

The Cherries came out of the traps quickly in the second half with Brooks sharply robbing a poor clearance and setting up Junior who shot wide.

Solanke, who was giving another selfless performance up front, decided to try and dribble his way through a thicket of three defenders only for Colback to muscle him over with the offence continuing by the merest fraction into the far top right corner of the area. Poor from Colback as Solanke wasn’t going anywhere dangerous and he gave the ref a decision to make.

Maybe someone had a word with the ref at half time about the four missed yellow cards because, soft as it was, he gave it. The kind of decision that’s probably right under the letter of the law but would leave you tearing your hair out and trying to blame the ref if it’s given against you. The real culprit was Colback though.

Stanislas proceed to step up and smash home our first penalty of the season and his second goal of the game.

Shortly after the game fell into a pattern that was almost the inverse of the first half with the Cherries sitting deep and holding their shape, inviting Forest to try and break them down but hoping to catch them on the break with all the space they’d have to leave in behind.

Oftentimes in the past watching AFCB trying to shut out a team was an exercise in nail annihilation it was that uncomfortable. However this was, at worst, mildly disconcerting. Sure, Forest started to look neat as they knocked the ball about and got a feel for having some possession but there wasn’t a lot created in the way of meaningful chances.

One cross flashed in front of the goal begging for a touch that never came and on 69 minutes Ameobi ran into a sudden block of space in front our area and pinged in a shot to which Begovic class of 20/21 was easily equal. From the resultant corner Yates headed over when Forest sub Knockaert couldn’t quite keep his cross down.

Meanwhile the Bournemouth formation changed as Gosling came on for Brooks with Stanislas going to the wide right position and then Rico on for Lerma to return to the three at the back. Nullifying the game to make sure of the result rather than chasing the third, fourth or fifth but maybe letting the other team back in at the same time. That seems to be a hallmark difference in the pragmatic Tindall approach as opposed to the buccaneering Howe one.

On 79 minutes Gosling was booked for a foul no worse than the four the ref let the Forest players away with in the first half and then with 90 on the clock Solanke was bursting into the area looking to get onto a cut back when Colback clipped his heels.

If the first penalty award was debatable this was stonewall but the ref, with a perfect view, waved play on. A very odd performances from the ref all night on the cards and key decisions front.

Still, another three points and another strong performance in differing styles across the two halves. On we go.


--- Conclusions ---

- Four at the back seems to be the formation of choice now and, given the array of attacking options we have, that makes sense. We can still lean on the five if we really need to but it seems to suit us better that we take the game to other teams this season.

- The full backs had to play different games. Smith was solid and did a lot of work going forward that probably went unappreciated. Kelly seemed mindful of not bombing forward too much which I think made sense given they tried to target that side quite a lot.

- Tactically I think JT got it spot on. Went after them in the first half, let them try to break us down in the second. It might have been a different story if we hadn’t scored the early goal in each period and worth noting that our first was one of the few moments in the opening period that they weren’t packed out at the back.

- It seemed a pretty trouble free evening. I never felt worried by Forest even when they did have an occasional glimmer up front. A safe three points.

- The L Cook/Lerma partnership in the middle is really starting to blossom. They look extremely effective together and dovetail rather nicely.

- Leaving players up for corners is causing panic for the opposition given the passing ability of the players the ball might drop to in or near our box. An interesting change.


--- Player Ratings ---

Begovic - 7
Called into action once. Dealt with it.

A Smith - 7
Loved his energy and unlucky to be often ignored by his teammates.

Mepham – 7
Solid and some good ball playing but did let Taylor goal side once.

S Cook – 7
The leader in a defence that rarely looked troubled.

Kelly – 6
Grew into the role as the match went on. A little more conservative in his attacking play but understandable given Forest’s tactics.

Lerma (off on 79) - 7
A Lerma performance. Intelligent marshalling of things even when we let them come onto us in the second half.

L Cook – 7
Here, there and everywhere. Will be very hard to dislodge if he carries on like this.

Stanislas - 8
Good finish for the first. Cool head for the second. Far more involved than on Saturday with lots of clever positional play to try and create spaces for others even if it didn’t quite work.

Brooks (off on 71) – 8 and Man of the Match
The difference engine. Glides past players like he’s playing against under 8’s sometimes and was the player to really cause panic in the Forest lines. Superb ball for the first goal.

Solanke – 7
Worked hard, never gave up, chased lost causes, held the ball up, won a penalty. An excellent centre forwards performance.

Danjuma (off on 90+1) – 7
One dummy people watching live would have talked about for years but for... Instead Harry will just have to add it to his bank of anecdotes. Still looks dangerous in every game and must have right backs across the Championship looking at our fixture with some trepidation.

Gosling (on from 71) - 6
Did nothing wrong.

Rico (on from 79) – 6
As with Gosling.

Riquelme (on from 90+1)
A surprising number of touches considering how long he was on the pitch!


Overall Grade: A-
Two sides to the Bournemouth display on show tonight. Fast one or two touch passes and quick movement when trying to break down a stubborn defence followed by a stubborn defence making themselves hard to break down. There could be some real mileage in this season if we can perfect both of those.

Well done to all concerned, players and management. A very satisfying performance.
 
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Good report. I did get a bit of kick out of the almost petty substitution of Rico on to counter Knockeart. Would like RoRo to be getting a bit more game time than he is. Other than that no real complaints.

I will say that I thought Kelly had a bit of a poor game, not quite as bad as Rico’s first half vs Reading but then Rico has been consistently excellent this season. I also thought Solanke was absolutely fantastic, his hold up play today was so useful.
 
Most things have been said, but few observations.

Report mentions Smith. It felt at times his team mates were deliberately ignoring him. Possibly he wasn't being encouraged forward so Brooks had more licence, but personally don't mind seeing a more low key game from him and Stacey coming back in when fit.

Also, team needs to be much more conscious of the 5 subs rule and what this can mean. For me, I would be busting a gut to get 3 nil up so that I can be replaced for the final 30 minutes, and stay fresh enough to start every game. Brooks , Stan, Danjuma all could have been wrapped up ready for the weekend if we had been more clinical. That's not a criticism of the performance, just that there are 2 sides to game management. Contrast with Norwich who had made 3 subs by the hour mark because they were 3 up (Stoke only got into the game after Norwich red card). Adding a third could have got RoRo on early, Oforborh could have replaced Lerma, and maybe Antony and Simpson could get minutes. Looking at fixtures ahead, there's a real chance to minimise rotation of the starting 11 but get subs on earlier to benefit the whole group.

On the penalties, the whole concept that it's okay to be given the first one because at least the later one was not given is mind boggling. This whole concept that VAR is bad and these decisions even themselves out is ludicrous. The first penalty comes at a critical time in the game. It changes the course of the game. If it's not given, then the whole pattern changes and the second penalty shout ceases to exist. Things don't even themselves. That's a myth.
 
Excellent report!
In Kelly's defence, I think Danjuma was often missing down the flank, so Kelly had no out ball.
 
Mepham and Kelly both very good at defending but not always good with the ball at their feet and time to think.
Smith and kelly kept the forest wide players very quiet.
 
Most things have been said, but few observations

Also, team needs to be much more conscious of the 5 subs rule and what this can mean. For me, I would be busting a gut to get 3 nil up so that I can be replaced for the final 30 minutes, and stay fresh enough to start every game.

the counter to that is if you are pushing for a third and concede to go to 2-1 which then becomes a very dangerous score line to defend against.
 
We still have problems at LB. Rico been wobbly in recent games and last night Kelly got himself into trouble several times - he was lucky Forest were too slow to take advantage. A good winger could cause us problems down the left. Someone needs to hit form.

Could always go back to Smith LB with Stacey RB but do think one of Rico or Kelly will come good
 
Most things have been said, but few observations.

Report mentions Smith. It felt at times his team mates were deliberately ignoring him. Possibly he wasn't being encouraged forward so Brooks had more licence, but personally don't mind seeing a more low key game from him and Stacey coming back in when fit.

Also, team needs to be much more conscious of the 5 subs rule and what this can mean. For me, I would be busting a gut to get 3 nil up so that I can be replaced for the final 30 minutes, and stay fresh enough to start every game. Brooks , Stan, Danjuma all could have been wrapped up ready for the weekend if we had been more clinical. That's not a criticism of the performance, just that there are 2 sides to game management. Contrast with Norwich who had made 3 subs by the hour mark because they were 3 up (Stoke only got into the game after Norwich red card). Adding a third could have got RoRo on early, Oforborh could have replaced Lerma, and maybe Antony and Simpson could get minutes. Looking at fixtures ahead, there's a real chance to minimise rotation of the starting 11 but get subs on earlier to benefit the whole group.

On the penalties, the whole concept that it's okay to be given the first one because at least the later one was not given is mind boggling. This whole concept that VAR is bad and these decisions even themselves out is ludicrous. The first penalty comes at a critical time in the game. It changes the course of the game. If it's not given, then the whole pattern changes and the second penalty shout ceases to exist. Things don't even themselves. That's a myth.


There is no need for a “concept” because the first one was penalty. The fact Dom was going nowhere doesn’t detract from the fact he was fouled inside the box. The line is “in” so it was a penalty. The only question has to be why did Colbeck make such a stupid and unnecessary challenge?
 
"Brooks played a ball of which Euclid would have been proud"
:clap:

Match report comment of the year. Not only classical geometry (thanks Google), but advanced grammar.

Add to that the social references (doomsday preppers, Ebay deliveries) . . . more than just the average match report.

All we need is to copy some of Neil D's standard comments in, and it will be complete.
 
Match report comment of the year. Not only classical geometry (thanks Google), but advanced grammar.

Add to that the social references (doomsday preppers, Ebay deliveries) . . . more than just the average match report.

All we need is to copy some of Neil D's standard comments in, and it will be complete.
But without the predictable polemics, please.
 
--- Bournemouth Fire, Forest Expire ---

After Saturday’s exhilarating comeback, this evening saw the return To Dean Court of one of AFCB’s favourite sons in Harry Arter playing for a Forest team who just missed out on the play offs last season.

With that, Forest almost got off to a flier with a wild Harry Arter shot on two minutes. However, this was immediately followed by Brooks getting on the ball near the halfway line and spotting a glorious Stanislas diagonal run from the left of the halfway line to the right center of the Forest box. Brooks played a ball of which Euclid would have been proud, landing it to the mm into Junior’s run who took a touch and slotted past the onrushing keeper.

1-0 and crucially we’d exposed space in the Forest backline with one incisive pass. Their response was to hunker down in their own half like a team of doomsday preppers to avoid any possible repeat whilst maybe catching us unawares with an occasional forage for food.

There shouldn’t be any surprise in that, Hughton has made a career out of being effective if not pretty and he always looks to start that from a well organised defensive shape.

Bournemouth’s dominance of possession was characterised by constant passing and moving with players always showing for the pass and trying to find pockets of space in which to work. When it worked it was something to behold but the problem, as with the first half on Saturday, was it too often lacked the vertical thrust to cause damage and instead regularly moved side to side.

It did feel better than the Reading first 45, with Brooks the outstanding contributor often looking to glide past defenders in central or inside forward positions to break their shape. That’s where we looked our most dangerous.

Adam Smith, in for Stacey who picked up a knock at the weekend, made plenty of lung busting runs but was more often than not used as a decoy or completely ignored by his teammates. On the other side Kelly seemed a little more circumspect in his forays forward but that may be down to worrying that Danjuma doesn’t have quite the same defensive industry that Brooks shows when called upon to get back.

Chances were at a premium but on 14 minutes Danjuma sold Christie a glorious dummy, the ebay equivalent of getting an empty box instead of the expected ipad in the post, and burst into the area. With the angle narrowing he chose to try and poke it into the near post rather than cut it back to the wide open Brooks and the effort was saved. Hard to criticise him being selfish given his recent goal scoring form but it should have been two.

Forest’s single chance of note in the opening 45 was when Taylor got the wrong side of Mepham only to loop his header from a good cross nowhere near the goal.

The ref had a slightly odd half. Yates went heavily into L Cook and also separately pulled Lerma back, Ribeiro went straight through Brooks and Arter hacked Smith but all four clear yellows somehow escaped proper censure.

It was a period that had seen some fine Cherries play but not much created when, in the second minute of injury time, that man Brooks tricked his way to the byline and cut back. With the goal like a gaping maw before him, Stanislas was unable to feed it with his shot cleared off the line at the last moment by the impressive McKenna.

Half time and with Forest defending so thickly it had been like trying to play the ball through, well, a forest. Still, so far so good.

The Cherries came out of the traps quickly in the second half with Brooks sharply robbing a poor clearance and setting up Junior who shot wide.

Solanke, who was giving another selfless performance up front, decided to try and dribble his way through a thicket of three defenders only for Colback to muscle him over with the offence continuing by the merest fraction into the far top right corner of the area. Poor from Colback as Solanke wasn’t going anywhere dangerous and he gave the ref a decision to make.

Maybe someone had a word with the ref at half time about the four missed

--- Conclusions ---

- Four at the back seems to be the formation of choice now and, given the array of attacking options we have, that makes sense. We can still lean on the five if we really need to but it seems to suit us better that we take the game to other teams this season.

- The full backs had to play different games. Smith was solid and did a lot of work going forward that probably went unappreciated. Kelly seemed mindful of not bombing forward too much which I think made sense given they tried to target that side quite a lot.

Well done to all concerned, players and management. A very satisfying performance.

Great result with a honest assessment of the play. They had a couple of chances that if they could have put them away it would have been a little different. the penalty for once went our way, I personally didn't think it was a penalty. But hey ho we got one for a change. Congrats to all the players a great performance all round.
 

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