Non - Cost of Living

SlowDownDerek said:
And if you use the median wage to exclude bankers and get to the real picture that actually affects 90% of the population?
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This dataset only goes back to July 2014, but since then median wages have risen by 29.9% and CPI by 20.1%.

https://www.ons.gov.uk/employmentan...statisticsreferencetablenonseasonallyadjusted

You need to download the spreadsheet and the figures are in table 2.

Instead of just querying my figures and stats, why not explain where your idea of a 2% year on year drop comes from? If it genuinely was that Guardian report from January 2014, then fine, it's just a mistake. But if there is any actual source, then post it, please.
 
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RobWells said:
flags are things from bygone eras to show what tribe we are from, created from purely man made divisions based on bugger all. incredible, sad, but not surprising we have not evolved past that yet. one day (fairly soon) humans will realise that we're all in it (ie the shite) together, but it will be way too late.

up the chezzers!
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for next weekend you could just put up some bunting instead?
 
Red Sky said:
Ah okay, yep agreed- work smarter not harder. The rise of the 4 day working week should go some way towards changing the mindset of alot of people. The only problem is if the cost of living keeps rising and the tax bracket stays the same, we all get pushed towards and eventually into the higher threshold out of necessity, People will be cutting back on things like eating out which impacts people working in the service industries who tend to be lower income earners.

Meanwhile the ultra rich keep using their loopholes to pay naff all and cruise around on their super yachts.
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https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/high-tax-rates-in-scotland-bring-in-200m-less-says-ifs-m6j9szcrh

Just to pile some empirical evidence on our point.
 
Just need to take some VAT off as was mentioned during the Brexit time.

That would reduce fuel costs and should then reduce other costs like food, which possibly go up because of cost to transport that delivers it.
 
billythekid said:
Just need to take some VAT off as was mentioned during the Brexit time.

That would reduce fuel costs and should then reduce other costs like food, which possibly go up because of cost to transport that delivers it.
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I was under the impression haulage doesn't pay VAT hence the whole red diesel thing.
 
Kudos said:
I was under the impression haulage doesn't pay VAT hence the whole red diesel thing.
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Fair enough, take more tax off at the pumps and make sure it is passed on to the motorists.


Increased fuel prices will lead to people paying more for food in shops and restaurants, an industry trade body has said.

The high cost of diesel will end up being passed on to customers, the Federation of Wholesale Distributors said.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-60674028
 
Kudos said:
I was under the impression haulage doesn't pay VAT hence the whole red diesel thing.
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Red diesel is only for off-road activities such as farming and has a rebated amount of duty (I think it's about 25% of the normal rate). Everyone pays VAT on fuel. Which is why you part of the VAT you pay on a litre of fuel is actually VAT on the duty - a so called tax on a tax.

[QUOTE="billythekid, post: 637324, member: 26" ]Just need to take some VAT off as was mentioned during the Brexit time.
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'Getting Brexit done," should be synonymous with 'getting rid of VAT.'
 
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ErikthViking said:
Red diesel is only for off-road activities such as farming and has a rebated amount of duty (I think it's about 25% of the normal rate). Everyone pays VAT on fuel. Which is why you part of the VAT you pay on a litre of fuel is actually VAT on the duty - a so called tax on a tax.

[QUOTE="billythekid, post: 637324, member: 26" ]Just need to take some VAT off as was mentioned during the Brexit time.
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'Getting Brexit done," should be synonymous with 'getting rid of VAT.'[/QUOTE]


The Prime Minister is on record as saying during the referendum campaign that post-Brexit, the UK could scrap VAT on energy bills, which was first imposed as part of Single Market harmonisation rules. But in a Commons debate on 5 January this year, he struck a very different note, flatly refusing to remove VAT on energy bills even though consumers are faced with an unprecedented cost of living crisis.

This highly significant U-turn was in fact of very recent date; just weeks earlier, after much discussion in Whitehall, the Treasury had decided to start preparing legislation to zero-rate VAT on energy bills. By early January, the proposal had been shot down in flames, because the Protocol would not allow the government to apply the zero-rate in Northern Ireland. And the government did not want to drive a further wedge between Northern Ireland and the rest of the country by cutting VAT only in Great Britain.

So, not only has an EU tax imposed under the Protocol exacerbated the cost of living crisis faced by the citizens of Northern Ireland, it has also directly impacted the entire population of the supposedly independent United Kingdom.

https://www.briefingsforbritain.co.uk/the-protocol-vat-trap-adds-to-the-cost-of-living-crisis/
 
billythekid said:
'Getting Brexit done," should be synonymous with 'getting rid of VAT.'
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The Prime Minister is on record as saying during the referendum campaign that post-Brexit, the UK could scrap VAT on energy bills, which was first imposed as part of Single Market harmonisation rules. But in a Commons debate on 5 January this year, he struck a very different note, flatly refusing to remove VAT on energy bills even though consumers are faced with an unprecedented cost of living crisis.

This highly significant U-turn was in fact of very recent date; just weeks earlier, after much discussion in Whitehall, the Treasury had decided to start preparing legislation to zero-rate VAT on energy bills. By early January, the proposal had been shot down in flames, because the Protocol would not allow the government to apply the zero-rate in Northern Ireland. And the government did not want to drive a further wedge between Northern Ireland and the rest of the country by cutting VAT only in Great Britain.

So, not only has an EU tax imposed under the Protocol exacerbated the cost of living crisis faced by the citizens of Northern Ireland, it has also directly impacted the entire population of the supposedly independent United Kingdom.

https://www.briefingsforbritain.co.uk/the-protocol-vat-trap-adds-to-the-cost-of-living-crisis/[/QUOTE]
The problem is, Billy, he made an inordinate amount of promises he knew he couldn’t keep, just to con people into voting leave.
 
stanthevan said:
https://www.briefingsforbritain.co.uk/the-protocol-vat-trap-adds-to-the-cost-of-living-crisis/
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The problem is, Billy, he made an inordinate amount of promises he knew he couldn’t keep, just to con people into voting leave.[/QUOTE]

The problem is, Stan, Johnson seems to make an inordinate amount of promises he has absolutely no idea whether he can keep them or not. He just says stuff off the top of his head and hopes it will all somehow work out later or that people will forget.
 
Populists will do anything to distract the useful idiots from the latest scandal. Next they'll announce that your bananas will no longer need to confirm to the EU regulations. You will be able to purchase bananas of any shape or size - stick it to the plastics bondy!
 
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