Harry Arter

kirsikka said:
You missed him in the Championship winning season which was, for me, his peak. He was like a greyhound with tiger teeth the way he used to tear around the park and dominate the opposition at that level and notched a fair few goals as well, given the extra space afforded in that league.
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There is no coverage at all of the Championship over here .... I mean nothing whatsoever. I looked everywhere for the Fulham-AV game last season. Shame really, we don't get to see the likes of Maddison and Brooks in their development stage. But, for me, davy says it perfectly.
 
Right. We still get all EPL games on TV. Were getting Champions League too, but DAZN scooped those and say there will be no leasing of these to networks. $20/month, 1 month free. Will jump in when the time is right.

Thanks for the info.
 
Toronto John said:
Right. We still get all EPL games on TV. Were getting Champions League too, but DAZN scooped those and say there will be no leasing of these to networks. $20/month, 1 month free. Will jump in when the time is right.

Thanks for the info.
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If they’re showing the play-offs semis and finals for League Two, One and the Championship then time your month for then.

Absolute drama.
 
kirsikka said:
lots of people commute from Bmth to London and that isn't that far short in terms of journey time. Especially as many of them will have further to go when they get to London.
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This being an old thread is useful as I see current comments alongside old ones which add some context. I do wonder whether commuting from elsewhere would be frowned upon by EH, I imagine given his love for the club and town and the siege mentality he had to entice when we had embargoes means he want the team local and committed. I know when I work a long way from home employers are often keen on me moving cost as it shows commitment
 
cockbeard said:
This being an old thread is useful as I see current comments alongside old ones which add some context. I do wonder whether commuting from elsewhere would be frowned upon by EH, I imagine given his love for the club and town and the siege mentality he had to entice when we had embargoes means he want the team local and committed. I know when I work a long way from home employers are often keen on me moving cost as it shows commitment
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Asmir commutes down from Surrey and when Murray was here he did the same from Brighton. Although I’m sure players stay the night locally before home games.
 
I didn't know that about Asmir, but I think I'd treat a senior player with established family connections recently moving to a club a bit differently from a player moving away from the town. At least I'd interpret it as a lack of commitment
 
What Harry gave to the club had a massive effect on our current status. I'm sure he felt the love for him and his family during the difficult times. He's right to move on and make a new start. I wish him every success, except against us!
 
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/46372831

Sounds like he is pretty happy with life at Cardiff. Reads like he was having a difficult time with us and is now rediscovering his love for the game again despite being in a side that's second bottom. Chuffed for him but makes it sound like he wasn't enjoying training with us. Also this:

"Playing at home has had a real meaning to it this year - the fans have been brilliant throughout."

Sounds like a passing swipe at our fans.

To be fair when we reached the promised land I thought Dean Court would become a place the big boys would fear due to its compact nature and fans being closer to the action. I feel like much of the atmosphere has been lost year on year, possibly due in part to seating issues/ pricing and maybe also the rise in football tourism/ prawn sandwich munchers. There are the odd games when we generate a decent amount of noise but it seems to be the exception now rather than the rule.

If Cardiff fans can do it when they are losing most of their games, why can't we consistently support our players when we are playing some of the best football we have ever seen?
 
Red Sky said:
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/46372831

Sounds like he is pretty happy with life at Cardiff. Reads like he was having a difficult time with us and is now rediscovering his love for the game again despite being in a side that's second bottom. Chuffed for him but makes it sound like he wasn't enjoying training with us. Also this:

"Playing at home has had a real meaning to it this year - the fans have been brilliant throughout."

Sounds like a passing swipe at our fans.

To be fair when we reached the promised land I thought Dean Court would become a place the big boys would fear due to its compact nature and fans being closer to the action. I feel like much of the atmosphere has been lost year on year, possibly due in part to seating issues/ pricing and maybe also the rise in football tourism/ prawn sandwich munchers. There are the odd games when we generate a decent amount of noise but it seems to be the exception now rather than the rule.

If Cardiff fans can do it when they are losing most of their games, why can't we consistently support our players when we are playing some of the best football we have ever seen?
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Brilliant post Red Sky! That needed nailing..every word!
 
You can read it like that or you can read it in the context of the other article published not long back about how everything in and around Bournemouth was a constant reminder for him of the tragedy in his life. Then you can read that as how he's now at a place where he can actually focus on his football again.
 
I took it that he'll play for anyone, as long as its the premier league #rangerover #averagesalary #lastcontract
 
If Cardiff fans can do it when they are losing most of their games, why can't we consistently support our players when we are playing some of the best football we have ever seen?[/QUOTE]

I think it's more to do with their novelty factor in the premier league. But I agree, it was particularly poor on sunday.
 
Not sure if this article from just over a year ago has been posted on here, it’s by Harry himself.

About the sad time and the joy of the birth of his second daughter.

It mentions the support given from two of his best mates, Charlie Daniels and Simon Francis. Richard Hughes and Eddie also mentioned.

With our game coming up against Manchester City, Harry mentions what Pep Guardiola said to him after our game, a nice touch from Pep.

It puts into perspective how the events affected Harry.

I have not read it before and it is a very nice article and even though ir’s long, it is worth a read if not seen before.

Whatever Harry decides to do, I wish him and his family the best of luck for the future.

https://www.skysports.com/football/...s-first-child-grief-and-the-joy-of-parenthood
 
kirsikka said:
You can read it like that or you can read it in the context of the other article published not long back about how everything in and around Bournemouth was a constant reminder for him of the tragedy in his life. Then you can read that as how he's now at a place where he can actually focus on his football again.
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Yeah that is another take on it definitely and it could be a combination of both perspectives. But it did make me take stock in general about how our fans come across to players compared with other clubs and how it affects them (maybe amplified in Harry's situation). Certain players seem immune to the atmosphere, but many rely on it to galvanise them.

Part of our rise, getting the best out of our previously poorly performing squad, was due to the good feel around the club and much of that was driven via the crowd.

I accept that the novelty has worn off, but we mustn't let ourselves forget where we are or how we got here. And we're definitely missing an opportunity by letting our atmosphere get too flat.

One solution would be to fit sound detectors to each supporter and allocate ticket points based on the average level of dB generated over 90 mins;)

:toot::utc:
 
Red Sky said:
Yeah that is another take on it definitely and it could be a combination of both perspectives. But it did make me take stock in general about how our fans come across to players compared with other clubs and how it affects them (maybe amplified in Harry's situation). Certain players seem immune to the atmosphere, but many rely on it to galvanise them.

Part of our rise, getting the best out of our previously poorly performing squad, was due to the good feel around the club and much of that was driven via the crowd.

I accept that the novelty has worn off, but we mustn't let ourselves forget where we are or how we got here. And we're definitely missing an opportunity by letting our atmosphere get too flat.

One solution would be to fit sound detectors to each supporter and allocate ticket points based on the average level of dB generated over 90 mins;)

:toot::utc:
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With 20 points deducted every time a supporter sings Sweet Caroline :wahey:
 
Aging crowd, limited new blood especially the younger ones getting in. The atmosphere is only going to get worse.

Throw in the fact that you have to have a battle with the PA system to generate any atmosphere before kick off and that too will have a knock on affect.
 
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