Non - Brexit

chetnik said:
school mate thing was tongue in cheek mate, but also small piece of real hearsay to suggest that perhaps it isnt as bad as the right wing media wish to portray it to suit their racist agenda.
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Fair enough. Agree that the effects are certainly not as negative as many media organisations like to make out.
 
Ivyhouse said:
I guess they try to refine the process with each election but the only poll that has any form of accuracy is the exit poll which comes out about two minutes after ten.
Once I’ve heard that I’ll probably be off to bed in a strop.
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Except in June 2016 which they predicted Remain which was announced on the news at 10 pm.

Then after early results came in those pollsters were left with egg on their faces.

Then during the night Dimbleby announced we are out.
 
dutchcherry said:
I'm just looking for answers. I would be very keen to know how the NHS is better protected by a UK Govt seeking trade deals, esp with the US who look after their pharmaceutical companies, compared to how it would be hurt under the TTIP negotiations you mentioned on your reasons for leaving. You previously told me to refer to your reasons.

You asked a long list of things previously, such as have i been taught by a certain economist, worked in the EU, had my work used by a politician etc. Maybe I read it wrong, but i thought you were inferring you had. If so, I would be very interested to hear your thoughts and facts on the above. If I read it wrong, then apologies. Every day is a learning day.

One other question, you previously mentioned you travel between Sweden and Denmark once every two weeks. Is that for work, or because you live in one of those countries?
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My reasons for voting leave were nothing to do with the NHS or TTIP and therefore I am the wrong person to be asking.

My "thoughts" on the NHS are which party do I vote for to get the best system?
Only the Conservatives or Labour can possibly win, so it has to be one of those two. In any case, I will never, ever trust the Lib Dems because of the big 2010 election lie over student fees.

I do indeed live in one of those two countries. Apart from any thing else, I have to travel through Copenhagen to get to away matches. So, see you at WHL and/or Selhurst Park if you want to discuss anything?
 
ErikthViking said:
My reasons for voting leave were nothing to do with the NHS or TTIP and therefore I am the wrong person to be asking.

My "thoughts" on the NHS are which party do I vote for to get the best system?
Only the Conservatives or Labour can possibly win, so it has to be one of those two. In any case, I will never, ever trust the Lib Dems because of the big 2010 election lie over student fees.

I do indeed live in one of those two countries. Apart from any thing else, I have to travel through Copenhagen to get to away matches. So, see you at WHL and/or Selhurst Park if you want to discuss anything?
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You don't have to travel through Copenhagen at all, the airport is outside the city in a town called Kastrup. The train from Sweden uses the bridge and the airport is the first stop.
 
ErikthViking said:
My reasons for voting leave were nothing to do with the NHS or TTIP and therefore I am the wrong person to be asking.

My "thoughts" on the NHS are which party do I vote for to get the best system?
Only the Conservatives or Labour can possibly win, so it has to be one of those two. In any case, I will never, ever trust the Lib Dems because of the big 2010 election lie over student fees.

I do indeed live in one of those two countries. Apart from any thing else, I have to travel through Copenhagen to get to away matches. So, see you at WHL and/or Selhurst Park if you want to discuss anything?
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Feb 2016, page 1 of this thread.
Qte
The Commission is hysterically secretive and conducts much of its business behind closed doors that lay it open to corruption and abuse from lobbyists. For example, what do you know about the TTIP negotiations that might destroy the NHS as we know it?
Uqte

When you voted to end the free movement of British people, to enjoy the perks of EU membership which you have, and currently do enjoy, did you do so knowing you would always have that ability retained via a family members citizenship or the fact you have dual citizenship? As we are always told, people knew exactly what they were voting for.

Would love to meet and chat but sods law, the two games closest to my house, and I'm away on holiday.
 
Kenya Cherrie said:
You don't have to travel through Copenhagen at all, the airport is outside the city in a town called Kastrup. The train from Sweden uses the bridge and the airport is the first stop.
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What was your grade in Geography?
The shortest and cheapest way that I take is Helsingborg to Helsingör. Strange thing, there is this huge city called on the way, oh what was it again? oh yeah, Copenhagen

Are you aware of how many nights a year I stay in the Danish capital? Two this month already and there will another two this coming week.

If this was a crude attempt to infer that I do not know Copenhagen and don't go there, you failed.
 
dutchcherry said:
Feb 2016, page 1 of this thread.
Qte
The Commission is hysterically secretive and conducts much of its business behind closed doors that lay it open to corruption and abuse from lobbyists. For example, what do you know about the TTIP negotiations that might destroy the NHS as we know it?
Uqte

When you voted to end the free movement of British people, to enjoy the perks of EU membership which you have, and currently do enjoy, did you do so knowing you would always have that ability retained via a family members citizenship or the fact you have dual citizenship? As we are always told, people knew exactly what they were voting for.

Would love to meet and chat but sods law, the two games closest to my house, and I'm away on holiday.
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If I recall correctly we were given two boxes to put a cross against, Remain or Leave. That was it. I was not given any other choice.

Was your ballot paper different? Were you asked to to pick and choose what aspects of Remain or Leave you would like?

You seem to be trying to hint at something? Am I right? If so, do tell, please.
 
ErikthViking said:
What was your grade in Geography?
The shortest and cheapest way that I take is Helsingborg to Helsingör. Strange thing, there is this huge city called on the way, oh what was it again? oh yeah, Copenhagen

Are you aware of how many nights a year I stay in the Danish capital? Two this month already and there will another two this coming week.

If this was a crude attempt to infer that I do not know Copenhagen and don't go there, you failed.
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Where do you live in Sweden?
 
Brexit is cream crackered!......Those of us that voted Leave need to see its F#cked.!
Even.. Out with Deal is not going to be fully implemented until about 2022 !
We should have left the day after the Vote!
..and struck out for glory if it was to be what it was meant to be!
My mother voted Leave....she probably wont be around in 2022...six years past the Re
ferendum .
Staying in....with proper representation by competent negotiators...is maybe best now!
(Not Farage or Widdecombe! Pair of Useless Tw#ts!)

Johnson hasnt the Ability to get us Out...or to even get any credible point across!
A Bumbling Mess from Cad and Bounder Times!
Corby...? Christ.....somewhere stranded between the Aldermaston March and Aldebaran! Christ knows whats going on there!
Sods Law tells me he might actually be PM of another No Majority Parliament....so its defo Bye Bye Brexit!
 
ErikthViking said:
If I recall correctly we were given two boxes to put a cross against, Remain or Leave. That was it. I was not given any other choice.

Was your ballot paper different? Were you asked to to pick and choose what aspects of Remain or Leave you would like?

You seem to be trying to hint at something? Am I right? If so, do tell, please.
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This just sums up Brexit really. You told me to refer to your reasons for leaving. I do, then ask a question about one of them, and you don't want to talk about it. Fine.

NHS at risk from the EU's TTIP negotiations, that is a valid reason. Now, three years later, would an even bigger risk to the NHS make you change your mind, or have another vote? As that example shows, things look a lot differently now than they did back then.

X amount of money no longer paid to the EU every year, however with a hit to trade tariffs would bring, would they just net each other off? Many people thought things would be as they were, but just with even more money.

As for your last sentence, I was getting a hint of something yes. However, I don't know the reasons you moved to Sweden, be it permanent or temporary. The reasons could have been out of your control, or out of necessity etc, so its wrong for me to go there if so.
 
dutchcherry said:
This just sums up Brexit really. You told me to refer to your reasons for leaving. I do, then ask a question about one of them, and you don't want to talk about it. Fine.
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You keep banging on about TTIP and the NHS. I know little about it. My point was not about the issue itself, it was simply an example, but that the Commission was conducting these negotiations IN SECRET.

I think that I wrote my original post in English.

As for my residence in Sweden, it is not a secret. There are quite a few people who are more than just user names, but real attenders of matches who know me and my reason first hand.
 
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ErikthViking said:
You keep banging on about TTIP and the NHS. I know little about it. My point was not about the issue itself, it was simply an example, but that the Commission was conducting these negotiations IN SECRET.

I think that I wrote my original post in English.

As for my residence in Sweden, it is not a secret. There are quite a few people who are more than just user names, but real attenders of matches who know me and my reason first hand.
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Didn’t realise trade talks were normally televised.
 
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