Eddie Howe

Do you think Eddie should go

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Well said Fritter. The collective experience of watching The Cherries in all 4 divisions on this board evens out the highs and the lows. It is still our team regardless of who is wearing the shirt for a period of time and it is in our blood not theirs.
 
fritter said:
The circumstances of our rise were unique. Brink of disaster and having to pull together. Building a team of misfits and cast offs built an energy, a spirit and momentum. That will never be repeated.

Eddie achieved something extraordinary. Truly magnificent. Keeping us in the PL for 5 seasons is a miracle.

But managing in the PL is very different. I have written before about the management changes in this division. It is hard to stay up for more than a couple of seasons without changing manager, outside the established 7. Even they change managers.

Would I want to join the merry go round of managers? Sam, Moyes, etc. No. I really wouldn't. Staying in this division isn't that important to me. I want to see exciting games of football. 11 players giving their all. If that happens I don't care if they win, lose or draw. I haven't enjoyed the overall premier league experience. I have loved some games and enjoyed seeing some of the best players in the world. But defining success as finishing 17th? Not for me.

If (?) We go down we will never come up again in my view. Do I care? Not a jot.

The children (and others) in tears? They'll get over it. No one supports a team long term that is conditional on success. It's in your blood or it isn't. It's your team or it isn't.

There are many on this board who will be there whatever division we're in. There are some that were planning a phoenix club when we were on the brink.

Those are the real fans. Thick and thin fans. The ones that help out when needed.

Eddie will go when he feels he can do no more. Whatever he does, we will not see his like again. We have been privileged in the same way that Liverpool fans were with shankley and United fans with Busby and Ferguson. A manager that loves the club so much it hurts.

Whatever happens he is a legend.
We are not worthy.
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We were never going to get higher than 9th or even do that again on our resources...in that Tinpot, smaller than Port Vale or MK Dons grounds and many others... Saints didn't want to know us for any Rivalry... players ' used us' ..all a bit of an insult to the efforts of Howe and Tindall....add in an Uncommunicative Hierarchy....
....the commentators and pundits treated us in a strange offhand and mystical manner generally.... for example, during tonights game they said..." and they are not even attacking with their usual flair on the wings..very unlike Bournemouth " ..totally out of touch with our seasons offerings since October !
If we ever get back to the PL.....it has to be with a Bigger Structure ...Ground and Mentality.
Disregard the ' get back' ... if a miracle descends on Us!
 
...we always knew that being in The PL probably wasn't going to last long term...we have given it a good go. The manner in which we are capitulating is alarming though and even if and it will be a huge IF we stick with Eddie and he gets us back up then would we ever last again? The club will change massively when we go down and who knows who may own the club if Max decides to sell and cash in with a fire sale, in which case Eddie will go anyway. I don’t really fear dropping down the leagues as we have ‘lived’ there for virtually all of my supporting life!...indeed it was arguably more enjoyable and sane....que sera sera

to be honest we haven’t been planning or structuring for a long stay at all...
 
Garbo said:
...we always knew that being in The PL probably wasn't going to last long term...we have given it a good go. The manner in which we are capitulating is alarming though and even if and it will be a huge IF we stick with Eddie and he gets us back up then would we ever last again? The club will change massively when we go down and who knows who may own the club if Max decides to sell and cash in with a fire sale, in which case Eddie will go anyway. I don’t really fear dropping down the leagues as we have ‘lived’ there for virtually all of my supporting life!...indeed it was arguably more enjoyable and sane....que sera sera

to be honest we haven’t been planning or structuring for a long stay at all...
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I do wonder what our fabled 5 year plan actually was in some sort of detail.
 
I think if we go down we can go back up .
Yes we will lose players but we will also gain players . We have the most talented squad we have ever had . Good managers are those that can rebuild a team and Eddie is a good manager and can do that .
Our normal way in which we play we can get back but does need some tweaking
 
Garbo said:
...we always knew that being in The PL probably wasn't going to last long term...we have given it a good go. The manner in which we are capitulating is alarming though and even if and it will be a huge IF we stick with Eddie and he gets us back up then would we ever last again? The club will change massively when we go down and who knows who may own the club if Max decides to sell and cash in with a fire sale, in which case Eddie will go anyway. I don’t really fear dropping down the leagues as we have ‘lived’ there for virtually all of my supporting life!...indeed it was arguably more enjoyable and sane....que sera sera

to be honest we haven’t been planning or structuring for a long stay at all...
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I think it’s the manor we are going down. We started the season extremely well, if you had asked me in September would we be relegated I would have laughed. There was no chance for me at all. Not sure if it’s the injuries, players or what the real reason is.
 
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It’s currently 14 votes - yes, 131 votes no
 
It really pains me to see the faces of Eddie and Jason knowing the amount of hours they put in daily. They live and breath the club, as do their families and all i am waiting to hear are the voices of some players should we get relegated saying 'i want to leave as i feel i need to be playing Premier League football'. AFCB have given these players the opportunity to play at the highest level and in my opinion too many have not stepped up. The only player i would clap and offer to carry his bag to his car would be Nathan Ake. A true leader of a man who in every game has given us 100%.
Our club is different than any other in the Premier league and we have always punched above our weight, but Eddie was the right man at the start of this journey and we need to remember who we are.
 
DJ said:
Longevity amongst managers at the same club is hard. Fergie is the only example but if that was a template that could be copied then it would have been done and you could then list lots of other examples.

Ferguson is certainly not the only manager to regularly change his back room staff.

I think it’s down to how hard it is to actually build a side and then dismantle it to build another one.

I’ve been saying for a couple of years this is a squad in transition. These things take time, we’ve lowered the average age of the squad quite dramatically and these players need to find their professional pride and place in the game. They don’t have the character because they haven’t had the experiences the “old guard” had.

The rest has been the perfect storm that others have quoted.

The balance of the side would have been better if the likes of Charlie Daniels had stayed fit and Steve Cook, Joshua King and even Nathan Ake weren’t quite so in and out of the side.

If there was a mainstay alongside Lerma in central midfield the spine of the squad and communication would have been ok. Perhaps maybe we wouldn’t fold quite so easily.

But a large part of the problem is still a lack of options and pace in the wide areas which make us predictable in attack and means we create little.

If Ryan Fraser could just be half the player he was last season, if Danjuma, Brooks, Stanislas had been available...if Adam Smith had been fit, all these things mean our wingers have been ineffective and our full backs have been non existent.

Howe could bring in all the outside coaches with new magic ideas to keep him fresh, but he’d still have the same knackered players to work with and zero options due to the number of injured players
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Just stumbled on this post I made 6 months ago. Still stand by every paragraph.

However the last paragraph. It still rings very true, however the reason why they don’t appear to have the fitness/intensity of others sides has now changed. Most are all fit and other players at other clubs are feeling the “benefit” of the break.

So opening the can of worms to create discussion...why is this?

On the bingo card I’ve got training too hard, not training enough, fitness coaches, tactics...
 
bpl234 said:
I think if we go down we can go back up .
Yes we will lose players but we will also gain players . We have the most talented squad we have ever had . Good managers are those that can rebuild a team and Eddie is a good manager and can do that .
Our normal way in which we play we can get back but does need some tweaking
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Talent without work rate will only get you so far.
 
DJ said:
Just stumbled on this post I made 6 months ago. Still stand by every paragraph.

However the last paragraph. It still rings very true, however the reason why they don’t appear to have the fitness/intensity of others sides has now changed. Most are all fit and other players at other clubs are feeling the “benefit” of the break.

So opening the can of worms to create discussion...why is this?

On the bingo card I’ve got training too hard, not training enough, fitness coaches, tactics...
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Too many players first names on the team sheet without earning the jersey.
 
fritter said:
The circumstances of our rise were unique. Brink of disaster and having to pull together. Building a team of misfits and cast offs built an energy, a spirit and momentum. That will never be repeated.

Eddie achieved something extraordinary. Truly magnificent. Keeping us in the PL for 5 seasons is a miracle.

But managing in the PL is very different. I have written before about the management changes in this division. It is hard to stay up for more than a couple of seasons without changing manager, outside the established 7. Even they change managers.

Would I want to join the merry go round of managers? Sam, Moyes, etc. No. I really wouldn't. Staying in this division isn't that important to me. I want to see exciting games of football. 11 players giving their all. If that happens I don't care if they win, lose or draw. I haven't enjoyed the overall premier league experience. I have loved some games and enjoyed seeing some of the best players in the world. But defining success as finishing 17th? Not for me.

If (?) We go down we will never come up again in my view. Do I care? Not a jot.

The children (and others) in tears? They'll get over it. No one supports a team long term that is conditional on success. It's in your blood or it isn't. It's your team or it isn't.

There are many on this board who will be there whatever division we're in. There are some that were planning a phoenix club when we were on the brink.

Those are the real fans. Thick and thin fans. The ones that help out when needed.

Eddie will go when he feels he can do no more. Whatever he does, we will not see his like again. We have been privileged in the same way that Liverpool fans were with shankley and United fans with Busby and Ferguson. A manager that loves the club so much it hurts.

Whatever happens he is a legend.
We are not worthy.
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:clap::clap::clap::clap:
 
DJ said:
Just stumbled on this post I made 6 months ago. Still stand by every paragraph.

However the last paragraph. It still rings very true, however the reason why they don’t appear to have the fitness/intensity of others sides has now changed. Most are all fit and other players at other clubs are feeling the “benefit” of the break.

So opening the can of worms to create discussion...why is this?

On the bingo card I’ve got training too hard, not training enough, fitness coaches, tactics...
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2nd November 2019..

Just turned over Man U

7th in the table on 16 points after 11 games.


What happened next ? We then went on to win one game in the next twelve. Manager / players or Injuries ? Looking back we moaned to hell about our performances against Sheff utd / Norwich/ Watford and Leicester away so the early signs were there before the Injuries really set in.
 
red_house said:
2nd November 2019..

Just turned over Man U

7th in the table on 16 points after 11 games.


What happened next ? We then went on to win one game in the next twelve. Manager / players or Injuries ? Looking back we moaned to hell about our performances against Sheff utd / Norwich/ Watford and Leicester away so the early signs were there before the Injuries really set in.
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The early signs were the end of last season when the work rate didn't match the oppositions.
 
red_house said:
2nd November 2019..

Just turned over Man U

7th in the table on 16 points after 11 games.


What happened next ? We then went on to win one game in the next twelve. Manager / players or Injuries ? Looking back we moaned to hell about our performances against Sheff utd / Norwich/ Watford and Leicester away so the early signs were there before the Injuries really set in.
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I seem to remember we scored an extraordinarily high percentage of our goals from set pieces in the early part of the season. The 0-0 draws with Norwich and Watford didn’t look too damaging at the time as the point gained kept us up in the top half.

Looking back the warning signs were there. Dread to think where we’d be without our set piece goals.
 
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