Eddie Howe

Do you think Eddie should go

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Neil Dawson said:
I don’t want Eddie to go but why assume the worst? You may be right of course as it’s happenned to some clubs but there’s also the option he stays and comes back up like Dyche or he leaves and we get a really good manager who uses the parachute payments well.

Swansea thought their world was over when Martinez left but Rodgers was an equally good manager.

Think more positively.
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True, but Eddie is Bournemouth through and through, and personally I'd rather be in the lower leagues, managed by someone with connections to the club and town than just become another PL team with mercenary players and manager.
 
Funny, all these negative posts about Eddie - people haven’t realised that’s how they are deciding who gets a ticket or not when they first let in a % of fans.

I really hope Eddie does something different at Man Utd / 5 at back (3 central) or midfield pls.
 
klaus_afcb said:
True, but Eddie is Bournemouth through and through, and personally I'd rather be in the lower leagues, managed by someone with connections to the club and town than just become another PL team with mercenary players and manager.
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That depends on how you are playing surely? Are you seriously saying you would rather be in the lower leagues with Eddie than in the premier league with another manager?
 
Neil Dawson said:
That depends on how you are playing surely? Are you seriously saying you would rather be in the lower leagues with Eddie than in the premier league with another manager?
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Yeah, I think I am. Totally get that it's personal, but for me, having connections between the club and town is a big deal. When we were in the lower leagues before, we had that connection between club and fans that you just don't get in the PL. Having a manager who was a Bournemouth fan and then player is a real source of pride. Would I stop supporting if Eddie left? Of course not. It just wouldn't be the same.
 
Neil Dawson said:
I don’t want Eddie to go but why assume the worst? You may be right of course as it’s happenned to some clubs but there’s also the option he stays and comes back up like Dyche or he leaves and we get a really good manager who uses the parachute payments well.

Swansea thought their world was over when Martinez left but Rodgers was an equally good manager.

Think more positively.
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Rodgers didn't follow Martinez tbf.....some Portugese chap who no one remembers did.
Rodgers and laudrup gave them a season or two of joy and then a long list of failures followed.
That's the fear for me....we might get lucky and get a Roger's or Laudrup but how long would they stay?...one season?....two perhaps?.....then what?
We're extremely lucky to have a manager who has been so loyal to us.....how many times could he have left for a bigger job?....the likes of Rodgers wouldn't give us a second thought.
 
AFCBade said:
Funny, all these negative posts about Eddie - people haven’t realised that’s how they are deciding who gets a ticket or not when they first let in a % of fans.

I really hope Eddie does something different at Man Utd / 5 at back (3 central) or midfield pls.
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To be honest, we’d be better off asking the PL if we could play a 8-8-4 formation at Old Trafford, just to add a touch of competition to the game.

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If Eddie goes we’ll probably join the management merry go round. Get a ‘name’ in.

This isn’t the first time that some have called for Eddie to go. In 2013/14, if we hadn’t had Eddie any other manager would have been sacked in that first championship season. We tippy tapped, conceded lots of soft goals and Eddie said this is how we play, and he’d rather fail doing it his way than succeed doing it another. That was a statement of intent and he was backed by the chairman and board. Players made mistakes, gave the ball away, many soft goals conceded, gaps in defence. We weren’t good enough to play that way, yet Eddie stuck with them. I don’t believe any of us could in our wildest dreams have imagined what they would produce the following season.

Had Eddie been sacked a new manager would have come in and changed it. Task to stay up. We’d have stayed up but I would bet anything that we wouldn’t have had a similar 2014/15. The one that had the best football I have ever seen at DC.

Only 2 players made more than 40 league appearances that first championship season and one was Grabban. But 10 of that team went on to make at least 40 starts the following season (7 made at least 40 starting and 3 others if you add appearances as substitutes, the three were Pitman, Kermorgant and Pugh). We added Callum who played 45 games and Boruc (who didn’t make 40 but was a regular after he arrived.)

Many said the promotion team wouldn’t be good enough for the premier league. Pundits and experts said we’d have to buy, buy, buy to survive. Another manager would have changed it. We would have tightened things up, brought in some old heads and become the opposite of what we have been. 6 players from the championship winning squad made 30 or more appearances in 15/16. (There were 7 who made 30+, the 7th was Josh. Surman was the only player who was ever present in the league.) Three more of the 14/15 squad appeared in over half the games. No one called for Eddie to go that season but the team that did so well has grown together because Eddie has been given time to grow them.

Having the 100% backing of the board and chairman has given us these years of magnificence, no external manager would have had that. We as fans have cut him a huge amount of slack because he is Bournemouth through and through and we know he loves the club. We almost certainly wouldn’t have allowed anyone else that slack either.

Eddie has his faults, the performances this season stem from his selection and formation. Pretty much everyone has been critical of that. Week after week waiting for the team announcement and then scratching our heads. Why? Why can’t he see what we see?

I think we are in the same territory as we were in the first championship season, where Eddie trusted the players because he believed he knew what they were capable of in the future. He believed he knew that the system would work, given time. His dream. His vision. His passion. It worked before, why? Because it was new territory for many of them. They were growing and learning together as a team and a squad. Players who (mostly) never thought they would be this successful, this good in a team. And they were trusted. Trusted if they made mistakes.

This season 9 players have played in 20 games or more, but too many haven’t grown together. Too many have been established, successful, wealthy beyond their dreams. Half an eye of the next club rather than 100% focussed on the future here. That’s the premier league. I think Ake’s determination and commitment is the exception. I don’t believe they don’t try, but the heart isn’t there with to

Eddie is the opposite of Harry in some ways. Harry can bring a bunch of players in to do a job in the short term. He can inspire and and build a triffic spirit but it tends to be short term with players who he knows have the experience, Eddie sees players who he believes can grow into something. The previous years gave him the luxury, and early on the necessity, to do that. The premier league is unforgiving in so many ways.

Should he go? I don’t know. If he does it will because he feels he should. He has been the heart of this club for so long, like Wenger and Ferguson were. Big shoes to fill, ask United fans.

I will watch today in hope. Building a team is exciting, fabulous, thrilling. Watching it be dismantled is just too sad.
 
fritter said:
If Eddie goes we’ll probably join the management merry go round. Get a ‘name’ in.

This isn’t the first time that some have called for Eddie to go. In 2013/14, if we hadn’t had Eddie any other manager would have been sacked in that first championship season. We tippy tapped, conceded lots of soft goals and Eddie said this is how we play, and he’d rather fail doing it his way than succeed doing it another. That was a statement of intent and he was backed by the chairman and board. Players made mistakes, gave the ball away, many soft goals conceded, gaps in defence. We weren’t good enough to play that way, yet Eddie stuck with them. I don’t believe any of us could in our wildest dreams have imagined what they would produce the following season.

Had Eddie been sacked a new manager would have come in and changed it. Task to stay up. We’d have stayed up but I would bet anything that we wouldn’t have had a similar 2014/15. The one that had the best football I have ever seen at DC.

Only 2 players made more than 40 league appearances that first championship season and one was Grabban. But 10 of that team went on to make at least 40 starts the following season (7 made at least 40 starting and 3 others if you add appearances as substitutes, the three were Pitman, Kermorgant and Pugh). We added Callum who played 45 games and Boruc (who didn’t make 40 but was a regular after he arrived.)

Many said the promotion team wouldn’t be good enough for the premier league. Pundits and experts said we’d have to buy, buy, buy to survive. Another manager would have changed it. We would have tightened things up, brought in some old heads and become the opposite of what we have been. 6 players from the championship winning squad made 30 or more appearances in 15/16. (There were 7 who made 30+, the 7th was Josh. Surman was the only player who was ever present in the league.) Three more of the 14/15 squad appeared in over half the games. No one called for Eddie to go that season but the team that did so well has grown together because Eddie has been given time to grow them.

Having the 100% backing of the board and chairman has given us these years of magnificence, no external manager would have had that. We as fans have cut him a huge amount of slack because he is Bournemouth through and through and we know he loves the club. We almost certainly wouldn’t have allowed anyone else that slack either.

Eddie has his faults, the performances this season stem from his selection and formation. Pretty much everyone has been critical of that. Week after week waiting for the team announcement and then scratching our heads. Why? Why can’t he see what we see?

I think we are in the same territory as we were in the first championship season, where Eddie trusted the players because he believed he knew what they were capable of in the future. He believed he knew that the system would work, given time. His dream. His vision. His passion. It worked before, why? Because it was new territory for many of them. They were growing and learning together as a team and a squad. Players who (mostly) never thought they would be this successful, this good in a team. And they were trusted. Trusted if they made mistakes.

This season 9 players have played in 20 games or more, but too many haven’t grown together. Too many have been established, successful, wealthy beyond their dreams. Half an eye of the next club rather than 100% focussed on the future here. That’s the premier league. I think Ake’s determination and commitment is the exception. I don’t believe they don’t try, but the heart isn’t there with to

Eddie is the opposite of Harry in some ways. Harry can bring a bunch of players in to do a job in the short term. He can inspire and and build a triffic spirit but it tends to be short term with players who he knows have the experience, Eddie sees players who he believes can grow into something. The previous years gave him the luxury, and early on the necessity, to do that. The premier league is unforgiving in so many ways.

Should he go? I don’t know. If he does it will because he feels he should. He has been the heart of this club for so long, like Wenger and Ferguson were. Big shoes to fill, ask United fans.

I will watch today in hope. Building a team is exciting, fabulous, thrilling. Watching it be dismantled is just too sad.
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Very well put, thank you.
 
fritter said:
Too many have been established, successful, wealthy beyond their dreams. Half an eye of the next club rather than 100% focussed on the future here. That’s the premier league. I think Ake’s determination and commitment is the exception. I don’t believe they don’t try, but the heart isn’t there with to
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Sorry, I can't agree with this at all. The wealthiest players are mostly the best players and that's why they're paid so much. By your logic De Bruyne, Stirling, Rashford etc would have half an eye on Barca and Juventus.

I think it's a bit more complicated than that. Maybe King's not put the effort in because he's constantly played out of position so that Wilson can play CF despite the fact that in Wilson's best season he actually scored 2 fewer goals than King did in 16/17. Maybe Rico gave up trying after EH made it plain he didn't rate him when he played 4 CBs rather than put him on and then bought Kelly who can play in his position. Ibe? Like Mousset had too many games where he only got on for 5 minutes and when he did start there were at least a couple of games where he was the best player on the pitch but still got subbed. Simpson, not allowed out on loan but only gets a game when Mepham is injured. EH might be trying to do the best for the team, but I think this has knocked the confidence of a lot of players. There's obviously unrest in the dressing room and I suspect a few players are asking themselves what the point of trying is and that's why they're not putting the effort in.
 
...bottom line is our poor recruitment and sticking by some of his old guard?...this has meant Howe making some rather strange team selections...I do blame him but hopefully the experience will sharpen him for a fresh effort to get a squad together...whether he wants to is another thing?
 
If Eddie stays it MUST be with a different coaching team and backroom support. Whatever’s been going on behind the scenes for the past year it’s been hopelessly inadequate. But has Eddie got the steel to make these changes???
 
What's people's thoughts on Steve Cook, genuine injury or an argument after Newcastle? Cookie is one of the most staunch Eddie lieutenants, I hope it's just a minor injury, cos the other scenario would not bode well.
 
90.7% want him to stay, even though they could change their vote.

Even after four defeats in this 9 game second half of the season, that speaks volumes for Eddie and how we appreciate what he has done.
 
northstandmark said:
What's people's thoughts on Steve Cook, genuine injury or an argument after Newcastle? Cookie is one of the most staunch Eddie lieutenants, I hope it's just a minor injury, cos the other scenario would not bode well.
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I’m as sure as I can be that Steve Cook had a genuine injury and that all talk of anything else is just gutter journalism by the media. Cookie is his own biggest critic, he is not a destructive ego which Eddie needs to take down a peg or two. I would be astonished if he didn’t play because Eddie felt he deserved punishment. They have fines for that sort of thing. Just the media trying to generate a shitestorm where there is none.
 
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