Time to Lawyer Up!

ThreeOneSaints said:
No, I’m certainly not ‘thick’.

I propose the FA sues FIFA for Frank Lampard’s disallowed goal v Germany in the 2010 World Cup, in fact sod it, while we’re at it, let’s take them to the cleaners for allowing Maradona to fist the ball over the on rushing Peter Shilton at Mexico 86......ffs
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Well...you are a bit thick...a cotton pickin Itchen bit thick.. Cus your comin on ere all Shirley girly skirt...Hampshire Chavlike...telling us stuff we already know....

...we can handle a relegation and in the championship we win games 8 - 0 away ....rather than lose 9 - 0 at home in t' premier league...sod the capital letters now...its a feed of crap institute !
We are the Happy Cherries !
 
northstandmark said:
Also have to ask, how has this gotten out to all the media, from print to TV to radio, when we know literally nothing else about what's happening at the club right now.

Clearly it's been leaked intentionally, by someone at AFCB.

Why?
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To gauge media opinion? It's all very tinpot.
 
RobTrent said:
I think its a bit crass, but if I stood to possibly gain a few million quid I really wouldn't give a toss what I and the Twitterati think.
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It probably does sound like sour grapes but I think they've probably got bigger problems than how they will come across. I'd be basing my decisions on stopping a slide into financial oblivion at this point. Is it too late to furlough the staff? ;)
 
paul49 said:
You're all forgetting a sort of precedent to this. Arsenal v Sheff Utd FACup 1999. Arsenal scored a winner from a throw in when the ball had been put out for an injury and should have been thrown back to a United player. It went to Vierra who played on and crossed to Overmars who scored.

Wenger said we can't win a game like this and agreed to replay it. Arsenal won the replay again 2-1.

The Villa V Sheff Utd game should be replayed.
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We’re not all forgetting that... ;)

https://bournemouth-forum.vitalfootball.co.uk/threads/its-back.11690/page-6#post-377436
 
Of course there is the possibility that the club has no intention of doing anything and this rumour has all come about because some journo looked at this thread and tweeted about it. It then spreads and becomes self perpetuating.

Still, if we can make them squirm a bit and help with next years budget, why not.
 
billythekid said:
From watching the game at the time the referee was very much aware of what happened, just by his reaction and pointing to his watch.

Nearly everyone else saw it and the players were complaining as they knew the ball had crossed the line.

But just saw this.

After the match Hawk-Eye came out with a statement, saying, "seven cameras located in the stands around the goal area were significantly occluded by the goalkeeper, defender and goalpost."
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The article suggests that that the idiots in charge of VAR didn't flag up the fact that the ball had crossed the line to the ref at the time. If this is true
then had they done so, then the ref may well have awarded the goal or at the very least may have gone to the halfway line tv screen to see for himself.

My question, if the article is true, is does the idiots in charge of VAR apparent failure to flag this up to the ref at the time amount to negligence? And if so, can we sue for this?
 
boscombe botn said:
The article suggests that that the idiots in charge of VAR didn't flag up the fact that the ball had crossed the line to the ref at the time. If this is true
then had they done so, then the ref may well have awarded the goal or at the very least may have gone to the halfway line tv screen to see for himself.

My question, if the article is true, is does the idiots in charge of VAR apparent failure to flag this up to the ref at the time amount to negligence? And if so, can we sue for this?
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Have to agree with this.
VAR can get the parallel lines out and define a player is off side by an eyelash or toenail, but they can't judge that the whole ball has crossed the goal line. They could've looked at that several times before reaching the correct decision and notifying the ref. Fact is they don't have the balls to overrule the gimp in the middle.
 
There's probably not much chance of getting anything out of this... but it feels like at least someone's head should roll for the mess they've made of the game.
 
As I've said before, and the Villa fan said, we're not after turning over the season - we're down, but if there is money there then we should go for it if the legal advice says so.

This could go a long way into helping us get back up next season.

Hawk eye came out with that statement, but the theory is that it wasn't even switched on (the referees forgot the prematch test?) if so then there is a case, especially as they have not revealed the 'occluded' footage of the goal.

If there was any club in the world something like this would happen to, it would have to be us. For once we can fight back, so if there is a chance lets do it.
 
crayon_eater said:
As I've said before, and the Villa fan said, we're not after turning over the season - we're down, but if there is money there then we should go for it if the legal advice says so.

This could go a long way into helping us get back up next season.

Hawk eye came out with that statement, but the theory is that it wasn't even switched on (the referees forgot the prematch test?) if so then there is a case, especially as they have not revealed the 'occluded' footage of the goal.

If there was any club in the world something like this would happen to, it would have to be us. For once we can fight back, so if there is a chance lets do it.
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We've got form for making enquires to refs and the PGMOL. I'd start by asking for simple clarification as to what went wrong. There's a lot more than just AFCB supporters who are going to be very interested in the answer to that question. They also need clarification of what measures they have taken to stop it happening again. These officials have been taking the absolute piss out of all of us supporters for years with their wall of silence after dodgy decisions.

Even if you forget compensation they should face the music and explain themselves to the people who ultimately pay their wages.
 
Had this malfunction gone against Liverpool or Man Utd heads would already have rolled. As it’s only gone against Bournemouth and Sheffield United it’s a lot easy to sweep under the carpet.

Now I really doubt us or Sheff U have a credible case but for the sake of football in general, it’s important for the authorities to take this just as seriously
 
SlowDownDerek said:
We've got form for making enquires to refs and the PGMOL. I'd start by asking for simple clarification as to what went wrong. There's a lot more than just AFCB supporters who are going to be very interested in the answer to that question. They also need clarification of what measures they have taken to stop it happening again. These officials have been taking the absolute piss out of all of us supporters for years with their wall of silence after dodgy decisions.

Even if you forget compensation they should face the music and explain themselves to the people who ultimately pay their wages.
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Teflon bar stewards who are never held accountable for the chaos they create. Time and again their incompetence gets swept under the carpet with no redress. Perhaps ok if it’s just sport and a bit of fun but these days football is big business and many people’s livelihoods depend upon these clowns’ decisions or lack there of. About time we started getting some honest answers. I can accept that all humans make mistakes but can’t accept how the PGMOL are always protected and never held to account.
 
crayon_eater said:
As I've said before, and the Villa fan said, we're not after turning over the season - we're down, but if there is money there then we should go for it if the legal advice says so.

This could go a long way into helping us get back up next season.

Hawk eye came out with that statement, but the theory is that it wasn't even switched on (the referees forgot the prematch test?) if so then there is a case, especially as they have not revealed the 'occluded' footage of the goal.

If there was any club in the world something like this would happen to, it would have to be us. For once we can fight back, so if there is a chance lets do it.
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This statement?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1273329766750445569

If you're correct that Hawkeye were lying through their teeth in that statement, then you might have a case. Have you a link to competent evidence that implies they did not test the system?
 
dsr-burnley said:
This statement?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1273329766750445569

If you're correct that Hawkeye were lying through their teeth in that statement, then you might have a case. Have you a link to competent evidence that implies they did not test the system?
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The evidence was on a 100 different cameras when the ball was carried into the net by the GK and Hawkeye apologized for phucking up. No word from VAR ref though who choose not to intervene.
 
dsr-burnley said:
This statement?

https://twitter.com/x/status/1273329766750445569

If you're correct that Hawkeye were lying through their teeth in that statement, then you might have a case. Have you a link to competent evidence that implies they did not test the system?
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This is why legal action may get somewhere. That statement doesn't answer any questions as to why it failed. Don't you want to know why it failed? What if it happened again?
 
Tinpot Club said:
Had this malfunction gone against Liverpool or Man Utd heads would already have rolled. As it’s only gone against Bournemouth and Sheffield United it’s a lot easy to sweep under the carpet.

Now I really doubt us or Sheff U have a credible case but for the sake of football in general, it’s important for the authorities to take this just as seriously
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That was my thoughts. Can you imagine if ManU were relegated and this had happened to them. The lawyers would have been in court by now, the PL and Hawkeye would have rolled over and the game would have been replayed. I would love to see us get some money out of it if only to keep the profile up of how the game is being ruined by so called technology.
I fully accept relegation but I feel we should ruffle a few feathers.
 
Resevoir_Red said:
The evidence was on a 100 different cameras when the ball was carried into the net by the GK and Hawkeye apologized for phucking up. No word from VAR ref though who choose not to intervene.
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This is what gets me, SKY were able to definitively show the ball over the line in seconds, but Hawkeye and VAR not apparently. I just don't believe it.
 
billythekid said:
It’s a long read, but it explains in detail in what happened that day and chances of making a claim.

Mainly about Sheffield United, but our club are mentioned.

https://www.footballlaw.co.uk/articles/sheffield-united-fc-hawk-eyeing-up-a-claim
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Well BTK - good spot. It is pretty obvious from that report that VAR should have intervened because it was a goal/no goal incident. It is written into the protocol. Hawkeye may or may not have seen it, the reporting system to the ref may or may not have worked BUT VAR should have been involved. Negligence.
Case proven M'Lud. Award AFCB £50 million. !!!!!!!!!;)
Trouble is the author doesn't agree with me.
 
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