The grapes are sour in Nottingham

Silent AFCB said:
Imo, VAR wouldn't overturn whichever way the decision went. If the ref gave it or not, either way it wouldn't be considered a clear and obvious error as you can see the merits for both ways.
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The decision was 'offside'. Right or wrong, the game stops. There was never a decision to make about Surridge falling over
 
Love this kind of thing though tbh. Beat a team and then some of their fanbase lose the plot. You could tell they had some right odd ones when the game got postponed after the biggest storm in decades. All sorts of needy conspiracy theories. Hook it into my veins.
 
The owner Evangelos Marinakis has some form as far as football goes.
Some excepts from his Wiki page.

Marinakis was charged with complicity to commit acts of bribery and match manipulation,[90][91] of instigation and facilitating acts of violence.[92] Marinakis, along with the president of second-division club Ilioupoli, Giorgos Tsakogiannis and others, cooperated so that a group of hardcore Olympiacos fans would travel on 13 March 2011 to a third division match and provoke riots to bring about a penalty. The prosecutor's report says that "Tsakogiannis informed [Ioannis] Papadopoulos that he had made arrangements and Evangelos Marinakis was aware of the plan for Olympiacos fans to cause riots".[92] Marinakis was acquitted from all charges by the Prosecutor, Panagiotis Poulios,[93] and the Council of Judges.[94]

In 2014, Marinakis was acquitted by the Three Members Court of First Instance relatively to the case of entering the referee's (Thanassis Yiachos's) locker room at halftime[95] during the football cup final between Olympiacos and Asteras Tripolis, against football regulations to complain about the decisions taken. Marinakis stated that he went to the referee's locker room at halftime only to wish match officials "good luck". Olympiacos went on and won the match 3–1, after a tense 1–1 at halftime.[96] In 2015 Marinakis was also acquitted by the Three Members Court of Appeals for the same case.[97]
 
It was a dubious penalty call IMO as I don’t think Travis actually caught him and I think Surridge was looking for it after he touched the ball too far on… However, it’s the situation that VAR loves and would have been given all day long…
 
Blimey, they lost a football match. Even if they had been given a penalty, Travers may have saved it, the fool taking it could have blasted it over the bar.
Sour grapes because as big as they think they are, they thought all they had to do was turn up to beat us. Unlucky for them AFC Tinpot were the better team over the season, and in that game.
 
Mentioned this before but VAR would also have looked at the offside differently. They pause it after the contact with the ball. Sky’s freeze frame was slightly before it.

Then the lines get drawn on with the angles adjusted for the tv camera positioning.

He may well have been offside once those alterations are made, he may not of course, but that’s how the Premier League end up with their offside by a toenail decisions.
 
Have they gone on about Parachute payments ?

On a general football site and a couple of Forest fans keep on saying how unfair it is and act as if they are little old Forest playing some big giants of the football world .

Now it does give an advantage yes if used wisely but I suspect of those sides without them Forest aren’t too badly off.

Compared to a Luton for example .
 
I think I'm right in saying that offside technology is soon coming in. I know they've been testing it. It's supposed to give a near-instant decision, so you'd hope that would be an improvement. Course, it still comes down to human judgement if someone is interfering with play or not.
 
Kenya Cherrie said:
The owner Evangelos Marinakis has some form as far as football goes.
Some excepts from his Wiki page.

Marinakis was charged with complicity to commit acts of bribery and match manipulation,[90][91] of instigation and facilitating acts of violence.[92] Marinakis, along with the president of second-division club Ilioupoli, Giorgos Tsakogiannis and others, cooperated so that a group of hardcore Olympiacos fans would travel on 13 March 2011 to a third division match and provoke riots to bring about a penalty. The prosecutor's report says that "Tsakogiannis informed [Ioannis] Papadopoulos that he had made arrangements and Evangelos Marinakis was aware of the plan for Olympiacos fans to cause riots".[92] Marinakis was acquitted from all charges by the Prosecutor, Panagiotis Poulios,[93] and the Council of Judges.[94]

In 2014, Marinakis was acquitted by the Three Members Court of First Instance relatively to the case of entering the referee's (Thanassis Yiachos's) locker room at halftime[95] during the football cup final between Olympiacos and Asteras Tripolis, against football regulations to complain about the decisions taken. Marinakis stated that he went to the referee's locker room at halftime only to wish match officials "good luck". Olympiacos went on and won the match 3–1, after a tense 1–1 at halftime.[96] In 2015 Marinakis was also acquitted by the Three Members Court of Appeals for the same case.[97]
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Obviously passed the FA fit and proper test with flying colours..................................
 
So just so I'm clear in my head what the issue here is. The issues that aren't in dispute seem to be...

  1. Forest lost a game they needed to win.
  2. They were clearly second best in the game and the scoreline was not unjust in any way.
  3. A draw would have been good enough with the right final day results, which didn't get close to happening.
But, if....

  1. The marginal offside decision went the other way..
  2. The dubious penalty was awarded..
  3. That penalty was scored..
  4. They somehow didn't play like sh*t for the rest of the game.
  5. The penalty also somehow inspired their players to pick up centre forwards at set pieces..
  6. The final day pans out completely differently and they get the results they needed.

When you think about it they were so so close weren't they. :rofl:
 
Mark WFC said:
Have they gone on about Parachute payments ?

On a general football site and a couple of Forest fans keep on saying how unfair it is and act as if they are little old Forest playing some big giants of the football world .

Now it does give an advantage yes if used wisely but I suspect of those sides without them Forest aren’t too badly off.

Compared to a Luton for example .
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They're funded well enough to write off 30m or more of losses year after year after year, presumably via their slightly mad owner. Many clubs are not so fortunate.
 
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