Arnaut Danjuma

[Neil Dawson]

What about our promotion last season whilst slashing wages?

One of the best two squads in the league went up second. Granted that doesn’t always occur but it’s not ground breaking. I’d imagine either Man C or Liverpool will win the prem next year. They will have deserved it but it’s not noteworthy.

 

[Neil Dawson]

Blimey, of course, but it depends on the magnitude of the sell on that we agreed surely? Neither me or you know that? Danjuma was off regardless last summer, anything we get a year on is surely only a positive or am I missing something?

Of course the sell on is a positive. It’s not a stroke of CEO genius though:

 

[blandford_cherry]

Of course the sell on is a positive. It’s not a stroke of CEO genius though:

It is if they negotiated a decent one

 

[Sorry Roger]

Looks like the Dildo brothers have been playing their games again.

https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...ts-problems-villarreal?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

 

[Hillviewred]

We could just Move On and get excited about things Solanke and Moore et al are gonna do next month..
Here and Now....B-O-S-C-O-M-B-E.. Boscombe !

If we runs short of Money and we don't gets no more grasping mazoola from the adventures and hoo ha surrounding King Dan Pele de Groeeneveld of Lagos. ..well then I've got a signed, framed pic of McDougal and his little doggy, from the Topical Times Football Annual of '72...that I could donate to any fund-raising picket and nova bucket jobby ! .

Jesus Christ let's Move On...we won't be getting any money ...it doesn't flow naturally to us...but it drains quite easily...we are Boscombe !

Have that wid your Thursday mornin' ginger biscuits and decaf wobbly !

Think that’s the same as fritters pic from an annual,was it the shoot one then

 

[SlowDownDerek]

One of the best two squads in the league went up second. Granted that doesn’t always occur but it’s not ground breaking. I’d imagine either Man C or Liverpool will win the prem next year. They will have deserved it but it’s not noteworthy.

They slashed the wage bill though Neil and got us in a position that would have made the club sustainable had we not gone up. In the last two seasons they got rid of all of the high earners bar Lerma (or renegotiated lower contracts) and still managed to maintain a great squad. I've no loyalty one way or another to Blake, Hughes, etc. but the idea that they are completely useless is just not correct is it.

 

[Neil Dawson]

They slashed the wage bill though Neil and got us in a position that would have made the club sustainable had we not gone up. In the last two seasons they got rid of all of the high earners bar Lerma (or renegotiated lower contracts) and still managed to maintain a great squad. I've no loyalty one way or another to Blake, Hughes, etc. but the idea that they are completely useless is just not correct is it.

They were left with a squad way too good for the championship trimmed it, still had the second highest wage bill at 28m (after trimming) seven times more than Coventrys. Lerma earned close to all the Coventry players put together. Fulham had the highest wage bill. Guess who went up.

You can create the bare bones narrative if it helps you with the romance but most of us live in the real world.

 

[New Old Cherry]

Think that’s the same as fritters pic from an annual,was it the shoot one then

Yep it's the same pic...it appeared in several.publications.

 

[KingKieffer]

They were left with a squad way too good for the championship trimmed it, still had the second highest wage bill at 28m (after trimming) seven times more than Coventrys. Lerma earned close to all the Coventry players put together. Fulham had the highest wage bill. Guess who went up.

You can create the bare bones narrative if it helps you with the romance but most of us live in the real world.

Have you got any evidence that we had the second highest wage bill in the league last season? You could possibly be right but I assumed that both the other two relegated clubs would have been higher than ours, considering we had two years of cuts compared to their one. I’d have thought we were probably fourth highest, in which case we technically overachieved marginally ;-)

 

[SlowDownDerek]

They were left with a squad way too good for the championship trimmed it, still had the second highest wage bill at 28m (after trimming) seven times more than Coventrys. Lerma earned close to all the Coventry players put together. Fulham had the highest wage bill. Guess who went up.

You can create the bare bones narrative if it helps you with the romance but most of us live in the real world.

I think you're the one with the narrative, I don't give a toss about Blake one way or another but this relentless criticism of the board as if they are completely useless is tiresome and doesn't really fit with the evidence. They had two jobs when we went down.. 1. Try and go back up; and 2. Sort out the wage bill in case we don't. They did both successfully even if it meant getting club legends off the books. The board did exactly what was required of them in the real world. No romance involved.

 

[Neil Dawson]

I think you're the one with the narrative, I don't give a toss about Blake one way or another but this relentless criticism of the board as if they are completely useless is tiresome and doesn't really fit with the evidence. They had two jobs when we went down.. 1. Try and go back up; and 2. Sort out the wage bill in case we don't. They did both successfully even if it meant getting club legends off the books. The board did exactly what was required of them in the real world. No romance involved.

No romance involved. ‘Slashed the wage bill’…. Not quite true…. Redistributed it from full time members to one year contracts or loans. Cahill, Blake and Phillips combined earned more than whole squads of lower championship teams. If you make hyperbolic statements you can’t expect not to be taken up on them.

It wasn’t hard to find a manager to get that squad up. It should have gone up the year before but they amateur messed up three times ‘Howe/Tindall/Woodgate’. Had we gone back up with that squad and the correct manager we would have been better equipped to play at that level than we will this year as we would have had Cook/Danjuma etc..

One of the most expensive squads in championship history got promoted at the second attempt. Great to be a part of…. But hardly a surprise.

 

[Neil Dawson]

Have you got any evidence that we had the second highest wage bill in the league last season? You could possibly be right but I assumed that both the other two relegated clubs would have been higher than ours, considering we had two years of cuts compared to their one. I’d have thought we were probably fourth highest, in which case we technically overachieved marginally ;-)

I see what you are doing there…. Distancing yourself from your old views Waz… clever double bluff…. Love it! Can’t fit whole list on but Sheff U are at c 340k a week so third and West Brom c300k a week so fourth.

 

[Neil Dawson]

Have you got any evidence that we had the second highest wage bill in the league last season? You could possibly be right but I assumed that both the other two relegated clubs would have been higher than ours, considering we had two years of cuts compared to their one. I’d have thought we were probably fourth highest, in which case we technically overachieved marginally ;-)

Here it is by players weekly salary for those on more than 1m a year in descending order.

 

[Notmarcjackson]

I think you're the one with the narrative, I don't give a toss about Blake one way or another but this relentless criticism of the board as if they are completely useless is tiresome and doesn't really fit with the evidence. They had two jobs when we went down.. 1. Try and go back up; and 2. Sort out the wage bill in case we don't. They did both successfully even if it meant getting club legends off the books. The board did exactly what was required of them in the real world. No romance involved.

There is no doubt that Blake and others have made errors.

I'd also go so far as to argue that there are people within the club that have a somewhat negative view of fans and this colours their interaction. These are people who have been in place for years and see any fan involvement as a direct challenge to them.

However, we have to put this in perspective. We had a meteoric rise up the divisions and ever since we were in league 2 we have operated with a smaller than average backoffice staff. This was out of necessity rather than choice.

Blake managed the club through the transition from League 1 to the championship, which is a fair jump. But we then moved from the championship to the premier league which is poles apart.

Again, I think he probably made mistakes but he had to learn quickly and he had to learn on the job.

Then he had to cope with COVID and relegation. We haven't gone bust, we're coming out of the Championship in better shape than we went in IMHO and I doubt that Blake will make the same mistakes.

I'm willing to give him the benefit of the doubt unless you can show me the fully rounded CEO with premier league experience who is going to be an upgrade and is willing to come to a club that has a better than average chance of being Championship again very soon.

I also think that he's perhaps copying Max in as much as he's not constantly in the press shouting about this an that and just gets on with the job quietly, which fans generally see as negative until their CEO says something incredibly stupid.

 

[Notmarcjackson]

I see what you are doing there…. Distancing yourself from your old views Waz… clever double bluff…. Love it! Can’t fit whole list on but Sheff U are at c 340k a week so third and West Brom c300k a week so fourth.
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Where's that from?

I'd be surprised if Derby's admins were paying that kind of money in wages.

 

[Neil Dawson]

Blake managed the club through the transition from League 1 to the championship, which is a fair jump.

It’s this that i fall out with. Had he appointed Eddie I might get it. He didn’t. He rode the back of him. Would we have got promoted with Eddie and no Blake. Yes. Would we have got promoted with Blake and no Eddie? Answers on a postcard….

I don’t blame Blake for our relegation, nothing to do with him…for exactly the same reason as I don’t hold him responsible for our promotion.

 

[SlowDownDerek]

No romance involved. ‘Slashed the wage bill’…. Not quite true…. Redistributed it from full time members to one year contracts or loans. Cahill, Blake and Phillips combined earned more than whole squads of lower championship teams. If you make hyperbolic statements you can’t expect not to be taken up on them.

It wasn’t hard to find a manager to get that squad up. It should have gone up the year before but they amateur messed up three times ‘Howe/Tindall/Woodgate’. Had we gone back up with that squad and the correct manager we would have been better equipped to play at that level than we will this year as we would have had Cook/Danjuma etc..

One of the most expensive squads in championship history got promoted at the second attempt. Great to be a part of…. But hardly a surprise.

They halved the wage bill in the first year and that was before getting rid of Danjuma Begovic and Cook, 'slashed' is far from hyperbolic isn't it. You are also making my point for me, they got rid of long term contract high earners and replaced them with players good enough to give promotion a go but who weren't going to sink the club financially if they failed to do so.

Your middle paragraph is pure conjecture. Who says they would be better equipped? You? On what evidence?

The board did exactly what they were required to do whether you like it or not.

 

[SlowDownDerek]

It’s this that i fall out with. Had he appointed Eddie I might get it. He didn’t. He rode the back of him. Would we have got promoted with Eddie and no Blake. Yes. Would we have got promoted with Blake and no Eddie? Answers on a postcard….

I don’t blame Blake for our relegation, nothing to do with him…for exactly the same reason as I don’t hold him responsible for our promotion.

You keep banging on about the best squad in championship history or whatever it is you constantly say. Part of Blake's job is keeping the squad as competive as possible whilst keeping the club afloat financially. He sold all our best players two seasons in a row and made astute signings. The quality of the squad is down to the board is it not?

 

[New Forest Cherry]

They were left with a squad way too good for the championship trimmed it, still had the second highest wage bill at 28m (after trimming) seven times more than Coventrys. Lerma earned close to all the Coventry players put together. Fulham had the highest wage bill. Guess who went up.

You can create the bare bones narrative if it helps you with the romance but most of us live in the real world.

no-one's creating a bare bones narrative
however, anyone with a brain-cell can see they got the job done with the recruitment of a new manager and coaching team, and the trimming/re-balancing the squad
if, ultimately, you've envious of their salaries then that's your problem

or you could find out where blake lives and boo him as he gets into his car to go to work, as you claim that approach worked with parker mid-season

 

[RobTrent]

Everyone at the club contributes in different measures to the team getting promoted, relegated or simply staying put. Its a bit of a childish statement to claim that people rode on the back of Eddie.

Plenty of teams have wasted the parachute payment years, so again, it doesn't necessarily follow that every team will bounce straight back.