DJ
Moderator
Which is fine. Bit like women’s football in that regards. It’s not for everyone, like I already said. But does that mean it should be vehemently shunned and call for it to be scrapped like some try?
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Which is fine. Bit like women’s football in that regards. It’s not for everyone, like I already said. But does that mean it should be vehemently shunned and call for it to be scrapped like some try?
zigger zaggar
Star Player
DJ
Moderator
Sorry, but it's taken all the best player away from playing proper cricket.
There was a time that one day cricket was ridiculed as pyjama cricket.
The one day cup is great for the younger players coming through.
JohnHold
First Team
Is there a Dani Wyatt fan club? Asking for a friend.
JohnHold
First Team
It's done wonders for women's cricket - and just about the right number of teams so as not to spread available skill too thinly.
For men, it needs to be integrated somehow with T20 in a way that retains the attraction for TV. So that the whole of August isn't wiped out for counties - after all the Hundred only has 28 games, it's just only one game is played at a time.
(Horrible news for Sophie Ecclestone - that could be a bad injury to come back from.)
For men, it needs to be integrated somehow with T20 in a way that retains the attraction for TV. So that the whole of August isn't wiped out for counties - after all the Hundred only has 28 games, it's just only one game is played at a time.
(Horrible news for Sophie Ecclestone - that could be a bad injury to come back from.)
DJ
Moderator
The domestic and international calendars need to be tweaked. They’re currently clashing and causing problems all over.
But internationally at least it won’t be sorted until India owns all.
Domestically, I’m not sure the answer is easy. You’ve got a calendar decided by the counties, but the county system is dated. By no means should it be scrapped that’s not what I’m saying, traditions should be recognised and protected.
But The Hundred benefits from being slimlined, quality not spread too thin. Competition done in a month with a game every day. Jos Buttler said it very well last week.
It could use overs and fall in line with elsewhere, it would certainly make things less confusing for those of us used to overs and run rates etc, but the benefits of it being quicker will be lost, only changing ends after 10 balls etc really speeds things up.
It doesn’t have to be exclusive over August, but the county championship or one day cup will always lose the top players to it. Just like they do for international duty.
But internationally at least it won’t be sorted until India owns all.
Domestically, I’m not sure the answer is easy. You’ve got a calendar decided by the counties, but the county system is dated. By no means should it be scrapped that’s not what I’m saying, traditions should be recognised and protected.
But The Hundred benefits from being slimlined, quality not spread too thin. Competition done in a month with a game every day. Jos Buttler said it very well last week.
It could use overs and fall in line with elsewhere, it would certainly make things less confusing for those of us used to overs and run rates etc, but the benefits of it being quicker will be lost, only changing ends after 10 balls etc really speeds things up.
It doesn’t have to be exclusive over August, but the county championship or one day cup will always lose the top players to it. Just like they do for international duty.
robber button
Reserves
I don't know what the answer is as taking out August is pretty harsh on county cricket, but having been to at least two double headers for each of the seasons of the Hundred, I really like it.
I am coming at it from the perspective of a dad with 2 kids (now 14 and 12), one boy and one girl, who both play cricket and they have loved it. We've had some really good days out as a family. It's also a cheap way of getting a family day out at Lords, although we mainly go to the Ageas Bowl. The cricket is usually a pretty high standard, you see stars of both the men's and women's game, and most games are relatively close.
I go to watch the occasional county championship or Blast match with mates, and enjoy those equally, and I do like the tradition. With the cricket calendar as it is (and even without the Hundred), I do wonder if 18 counties can survive and thrive.
I am coming at it from the perspective of a dad with 2 kids (now 14 and 12), one boy and one girl, who both play cricket and they have loved it. We've had some really good days out as a family. It's also a cheap way of getting a family day out at Lords, although we mainly go to the Ageas Bowl. The cricket is usually a pretty high standard, you see stars of both the men's and women's game, and most games are relatively close.
I go to watch the occasional county championship or Blast match with mates, and enjoy those equally, and I do like the tradition. With the cricket calendar as it is (and even without the Hundred), I do wonder if 18 counties can survive and thrive.
In All Departments
First Team
I'm interested in your comments DJ because having had a few days at the Ashes I've really missed some cricket in August... but haven't been able to watch any because I can't stand The Hundred’s hype and the breathless brainless tv worship. I think you're still a lover of test match cricket so I genuinely applaud your open mindedness!
I think the “overwhelming success” is questionable given the Fanos Hira (Worcester chairman) report but fully accept it’s here to stay. Despite my traditionalist stance I still enjoyed a few T20s at the Ageas this year - all the white ball skills with a county allegiance and much less hype.
I’ll always think that would have been the way to go with all the cash to splash but that ship has sailed… in the end it will have to grapple with the 100 format which remains an outlier and somehow the calendar issue will have to be resolved for county and test match cricket and the Blast.
It’s a very tall order… we’ll see.
DJ
Moderator
His comments preceded this season, which I wouldn’t be surprised if it hasn’t seen attendances and viewing figures rise on last season.
They also believe the hundred has helped boost attendances at the blast and women’s ashes, obviously difficult to prove or disprove. But the Hundred has certainly done what it set out which was to introduce a new and younger audience to the sport.
I love the Blast, but it had 20 years, it was around before IPL, I can’t see how throwing money at it would have helped it capture a bigger fan base.
The Hundred is quicker 8 teams, talent spread evenly etc that kind of revamp couldn’t be done and include all the counties.
I don’t know what the answer is, the Strauss report made a lot of sense for county cricket and the domestic calendar but the counties binned it out of hand.
JohnHold
First Team
Those are certainly the questions. I'm sure they could be answered.
The Big Bash is attractive, but the talent is spread far thinner - 6 state teams spread across 8 BBL teams - and by the end this year, all overseas stars had left for other competitions worldwide.
Maybe 2 divisions. There are several cities or county grounds which would provide the attendance to support more teams. Would the draft money be enough to bring in more stars?
But while the men's game could provide enough high standard players, the women's game currently wouldn't
The Big Bash is attractive, but the talent is spread far thinner - 6 state teams spread across 8 BBL teams - and by the end this year, all overseas stars had left for other competitions worldwide.
Maybe 2 divisions. There are several cities or county grounds which would provide the attendance to support more teams. Would the draft money be enough to bring in more stars?
But while the men's game could provide enough high standard players, the women's game currently wouldn't
DJ
Moderator
The problem with the Bash was the start of the SA20 and ILT20, with the players running off for the big money.
There’s less of a cross over this season with the ILT20 starting a bit later, both still overlap, then the PSL overlaps those… etc etc, all trying to squeeze in before the IPL gets its free calendar.
We’ll have a problem with MLC clashing more next season as it grows as well.
There’s less of a cross over this season with the ILT20 starting a bit later, both still overlap, then the PSL overlaps those… etc etc, all trying to squeeze in before the IPL gets its free calendar.
We’ll have a problem with MLC clashing more next season as it grows as well.
zigger zaggar
Star Player
DJ
Moderator
That says it all if today is your first ever visit to Lords.
What I found curious at Lords was all the supposed fuddy duddy members who hate everything to do with modern day cricket…were all queuing up for hours before the turnstiles opened because they don’t have reserved seats.
mymatebond
Star Player
Attended the Hampshire v Worcestershire game yesterday-quarter final Metro one day Cup. Paid £16 for 7 hours of entertaining cricket but the Ageas had so fee fans there.
Was originally due to be played Friday but Worcestershire were playing New Zealand so moved. Sure it didn't help it clashed with Hundred final.
Hampshire won and into semi- final. Used to regularly go and watch Hampshire in one day cup when the then Rose Bowl had a much higher attendance and a great atmosphere.
Will the One Day Cup survive?
Was originally due to be played Friday but Worcestershire were playing New Zealand so moved. Sure it didn't help it clashed with Hundred final.
Hampshire won and into semi- final. Used to regularly go and watch Hampshire in one day cup when the then Rose Bowl had a much higher attendance and a great atmosphere.
Will the One Day Cup survive?
The One Day Cup has been deliberately relegated to the sidelines by the media and the cricket authorities and will likely get killed off. there wasn't even a mention of the game on yesterday evenings BBC website (there is this morning). The final which used to be the season showpiece is not even at Lords. Great win for Hants in a very close game with almost 600 runs.
zigger zaggar
Star Player
There was 2,500 at Newclose on the Isle of Wight on Tuesday for the final group game but yes it is a worry. Back in the day the first class counties played a One Day league and two One Day cups! Now it's just the one One Day cup and yes despite Hampshire's great victory yesterday it didn't even get a mention on South Today.
We are hoping to go to the Rose Bowl for day one of the postponed county championship game against Somerset on Sunday, weather permitting. Yes I fear for all forms of cricket now it seems that the whole of August is taken over by this complete farce of a format. I mean it even took precedence over an Ashes Test series so that for the first time ever there weren't even any Tests played in August.
