Dominic Solanke

SlowDownDerek said:
Fancy picking the 'Lys Mousset was a better option than Solanke' argument as a hill to die on.

Mousset left for £10m after doing not much of note in an AFCB shirt. The following season he scored six goals in a side that finished top half and Dom scored three in a side that were abject and got relegated. Proven PL strikers such as Calum Wilson and Josh King also struggled as did all our midfielders. You judged Solanke on that. I argued that he was better than you gave him credit for. Time has proven you spectacularly wrong on both players yet here you are still trying to defend the indefensible.

You've even got the front to bring up the time when you came on here specifically to gloat about how terrible Dom Solanke was after the palace game. Shameful.
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Usual hyperbolic wank. Not dying on any hills… we didn’t have a goal option off the bench we went down, the people that were allowed to leave weren’t great they’d have given us some goals.

You were proven wrong. Five years later Solanke has finally beaten Moussets PL goal tally so you feel you can swank back in in your usual ‘I’m never wrong’ fashion ignoring the fact it wasn’t what was ever being debated.
 
Neil Dawson said:
Either kept him, as he went on to score six the next year so had something Dom didn’t at that time or…. Replaced him with someone else who could get goals off the bench.
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Yes he scored 6, which is double what he scored in 3 previous seasons. Are you suggesting eddie or hughes, or whoever you blame for this terrible decision, made a mistake by not consulting mystic Neil who clearly could have told them don't take the £10m he'll be prolific next season. Amazing they did what they did
 
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Waz afcb said:
Our third choice strikers in various seasons-

Glenn Murray- 4 goals
Jermaine Defoe- 4 goals
Mousette- 3 goals
Solanke- 3 goals

So your argument is that because Solanke’s goals came late in the season that they were less valuable? I don’t know if you’re talking about a different season, but I don’t remember us being doomed. I remember us still being right in the fight up until the last game of the season, had Villa lost at West Ham we would have stayed up. What you’re trying to argue just doesn’t really make sense.
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Yes. He missed so many chances to get us points that season before scoring in the last three games. It’s hard to remember now he has finally clicked as a top flight striker that prior to this season his record was poor at this level and he was questioned by many fans as a top flight striker. In his first five seasons of top flight football he got 10 goals in 96 games.

He has a manager now that has worked with him and unlocked his potential which is fantastic and a joy to watch but it doesn’t rewrite history.
 
CherryBare said:
Yes he scored 6, which is double what he scored in 3 previous seasons. Are you suggesting eddie or hughes, or whoever you blame for this terrible decision, made a mistake by not consulting mystic Neil who clearly could have told them don't take the £10m he'll be prolific next season. Amazing they did what they did
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No. I’m not. If you actually read what I’m saying it’s that Mousset was more likely to grab a goal off the bench in top flight football in 2019, nothing more and nothing less. Something that is statistically impossible to argue against.
 
Neil Dawson said:
No. I’m not. If you actually read what I’m saying it’s that Mousset was more likely to grab a goal off the bench in top flight football in 2019, nothing more and nothing less. Something that is statistically impossible to argue against.
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What 1 goal a season is very easy to argue against
 
Neil Dawson said:
Usual hyperbolic wank. Not dying on any hills… we didn’t have a goal option off the bench we went down, the people that were allowed to leave weren’t great they’d have given us some goals.

You were proven wrong. Five years later Solanke has finally beaten Moussets PL goal tally so you feel you can swank back in in your usual ‘I’m never wrong’ fashion ignoring the fact it wasn’t what was ever being debated.
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Jesus Christ, beating our best ever striker up because he didn't score and PL goals when he was playing in the championship for two years.

I absolutely was not wrong about Solanke, if you recall I didn't even say he was better than Mousset I said he was no worse, which is exactly what you shameful fell over yourself to gloat about when we got beat by Palace. Your worst moment on here imo and not a particularly great one from me either.

Fwiw I was wrong about Mousset, because I thought he might prove useful and he wasn't.

We signed a third choice option with loads of promise and you blame relegation on him for your own ends. Best ever AFCB striker and you slated him because he was young and misfiring in a shite team who gave him barely any supply. It's your first choice strikers who should be scoring the goals to keep the side up. If you need your third choice rookie to bail you out of trouble I'd suggest you have bigger problems going on.
 
Neil Dawson said:
No. I’m not. If you actually read what I’m saying it’s that Mousset was more likely to grab a goal off the bench in top flight football in 2019, nothing more and nothing less. Something that is statistically impossible to argue against.
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The guy had loads of chances to do that and barely ever managed it. They got rid and upgraded to Solanke and that was an excellent decision.
 
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SlowDownDerek said:
Jesus Christ, beating our best ever striker up because he didn't score and PL goals when he was playing in the championship for two years.

I absolutely was not wrong about Solanke, if you recall I didn't even say he was better than Mousset I said he was no worse, which is exactly what you shameful fell over yourself to gloat about when we got beat by Palace. Your worst moment on here imo and not a particularly great one from me either.

Fwiw I was wrong about Mousset, because I thought he might prove useful and he wasn't.

We signed a third choice option with loads of promise and you blame relegation on him for your own ends. Best ever AFCB striker and you slated him because he was young and misfiring in a shite team who gave him barely any supply. It's your first choice strikers who should be scoring the goals to keep the side up. If you need your third choice rookie to bail you out of trouble I'd suggest you have bigger problems going on.
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More hyperbolic lengthy wank. I’ve even said there were many reasons we got relegated any which had they been resolved would have kept us up, including turning technology on. One of these was opting to rely on Dom for goals at a time where he was on a run of 1 in 50. Not his fault and absolutely the right decision to buy him for potential but don’t rely on him. We let two strikers go and didn’t replace them. Like I said, not Doms fault.
 
SlowDownDerek said:
The guy had loads of chances to do that and barely ever managed it. They got rid and upgraded to Solanke and that was an excellent decision.
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We got relegated with a really poor goalscoring record and they didn’t upgrade to Solanke he was already here.

Apart from that….
 
Neil Dawson said:
More hyperbolic lengthy wank. I’ve even said there were many reasons we got relegated any which had they been resolved would have kept us up, including turning technology on. One of these was opting to rely on Dom for goals at a time where he was on a run of 1 in 50. Not his fault and absolutely the right decision to buy him for potential but don’t rely on him. We let two strikers go and didn’t replace them. Like I said, not Doms fault.
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Yet the discussion way back the was whether it was right to get rid of Mousset for Solanke. At the time you were arguing that Lys was a better player but you've revised that now. Either way it appears that even you accept that there we a hell of a lot of more significant factors that led to our relegation than a misfiring third choice striker. We let two misfits go and replaced them with our best ever striker and here you are years later saying it was a bad thing.
 
SlowDownDerek said:
We let two misfits go and replaced them with our best ever striker and here you are years later saying it was a bad thing.
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Only because you brought it up. We lost two years in the premier league and 300m quid. So yes, while he has turned out well it was the wrong decision at the time as I believe just one of the chances he missed being scored makes a one point difference and either both the misfits were more likely to get that or they should have brought someone else in a instead. It was too big an ask for a 1 in 50 striker.

You are clinging to the best ever striker bit that happened four years later to give credence to the fact you were wrong at the actual time we were discussing this in 2019. Other than my four pile on fanboys people will see through this Del. We weren’t discussing Solanke in 2024 we were discussing staying up.
 
Neil Dawson said:
Only because you brought it up. We lost two years in the premier league and 300m quid. So yes, while he has turned out well it was the wrong decision at the time as I believe just one of the chances he missed being scored makes a one point difference and either both the misfits were more likely to get that or they should have brought someone else in a instead. It was too big an ask for a 1 in 50 striker.

You are clinging to the best ever striker bit that happened four years later to give credence to the fact you were wrong at the actual time we were discussing this in 2019. Other than my four pile on fanboys people will see through this Del. We weren’t discussing Solanke in 2024 we were discussing staying up.
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I brought it up to show you have history of using players that have left as a stick to beat the club with, Lerma isn't the first and I'm sure won't be the last.

That first paragraph, you'll never see it but it's quite damning of how you go after players. Dom, a rookie, cost us £300m. Such a negative way of looking at his signing. Some players take time to hit their mark, Adams may be another for different reasons but you will always take the negative angle for the sake of it.

I don't need to cling to anything because I'm not twisting things to rewrite history. Signing Solanke is not in the top ten reasons we went down. Howe is way higher up than Dom and he's the biggest club legend we'll ever have.
 
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