Adam Smith

Franno has still got what it takes, it's just that it is now in an inconsistent nature... He was awesome against Palace at home and works very well with Brooks coming back in support...

If we can get Josh back fit, Brooks back on the wing, we should be ok with Franno at RB, but I would expect to see another RB come in in Jan, 'if' Smithy is out for the foreseeable.
 
Eddie seemed to acknowledge that Daniels was to follow the path taken by Tommy Elphick and spent good money on Brad Smith and Rico yet Daniels seemed to have weathered the storm. However, Francis at right back has been more of a concern for some considerable time and there has been much debate on here about replacing him. That delay might now come to haunt us.

I don't agree. He's performed really well there this season. He kept Zaha, one of the most tricky people ever to mark, quiet throughout the Palace match and yes he's lost a notch of pace but still performs well every match and gives 1000% effort. He would definitely be first choice even if we bring in someone in January
 
The worst thing about Saturday was for me Adam Smith's injury, I hope it isn't as serious as it looks - we'll find out very soon.
If he is out for the season, I for one will miss the dynamism that he brings to the team. One of my favourite players.
Get well soon Adam.
 
Time indeed.

We'll be division One by then.

After Smith got injured, that was probably one of the strangest tactical moves Eddie has ever made.
Yep, maybe he was in shock at Adam's injury. Still don't understand why Smith was playing left back in the first place with two left backs available for team selection.
 
Yep, maybe he was in shock at Adam's injury. Still don't understand why Smith was playing left back in the first place with two left backs available for team selection.

I think smith has done well at left back so understand the choice especially as Eddie wants franno in the team.
 
I think smith has done well at left back so understand the choice especially as Eddie wants franno in the team.

I agree... in fact Smith has often looked a better player at left back...a couple of performances last year were outstanding.
I think Newcastle targeted Charlie in last seasons home game ....might have had a bearing on Eddie decision.
 
I agree... in fact Smith has often looked a better player at left back...a couple of performances last year were outstanding.
I think Newcastle targeted Charlie in last seasons home game ....might have had a bearing on Eddie decision.

I think Eddie likes him cutting in on his right; he has done this with a few wingers down the years, playing on the side opposite to their preferred foot. Was Newcastle the game when smith smashed it in off the bar after running on to Lewis Cook’s next flick?
 
I think Eddie likes him cutting in on his right; he has done this with a few wingers down the years, playing on the side opposite to their preferred foot. Was Newcastle the game when smith smashed it in off the bar after running on to Lewis Cook’s next flick?
Thats right AFCBade....i think Charlie got replaced by Smithy at half time after having a bit of a mare.
 
Thing is....luckily we are way ahead on points than where we could have been...so getting through to January shouldn't knock us back too much, even with the teams we have to play. Franno has been ok, aside from Saturday, so Daniels and Rico to battle for the left side ....by which time we know the extent of this injury lay-off....and can decide whether further signings are needed.

We're actually still 3 points down on the equivalent fixtures last season. Yes, you can only beat what's in front of you but we might need to pull out some special results against the 'big guns' when it comes to it.
 
This from Sky re Smith and Lerma.

It is understood there is still swelling on the joint and it may take a number of days to determine the full extent of the problem and how long he will remain on the sidelines.

Jefferson Lerma also suffered a hamstring problem in the game, which the south-coast club lost 2-1, but his knock is not thought to be serious and he continues to be assessed by medical staff.

https://www.skysports.com/football/...smith-to-see-specialist-to-assess-knee-injury
 
That's Adam, not Brad :grinning:. Just posting some of the thoughts I've had on Smith's recent injury, and what it means for the rest of the season.

Probably the worst long-term injury we could have gotten this season, to be quite honest. Such an invaluable player to have in the squad, a consistent 7/10 performer, can be counted on to play 3 different positions very well, worthy of being a full international in any other era. I think this is in danger of derailing our season honestly. Granted, it might not be an ACL or anything of that ilk, we don't know for certain yet; there's maybe a slim chance that its a dislocated knee, or maybe lesser ligament damage, but it's not looking good. And in terms of the team, it leaves us with just Francis as a RB, who was already playing ahead of Smith in his favoured position because Eddie :love: Franno.

Francis has already pulled his groin this season, and so its reasonable to assume that he could easily get injured this season, which would leave us with a grand total of 0 right backs. I've never had a problem with Francis playing in right back ahead of Smith IF he's playing well, because Smith is also a very good left back, and Francis can be very effective against the right opposition. However, the problem with that is that Eddie signed a Left Back in the summer for £11 million, Diego Rico, who was sitting in the reserves because of this. It looks like we have good strength in depth on the surface, but the reality is that we had 3 good left backs (Daniels, Rico and Smith) and one goodish right back (Francis). What's more frustrating is that at the start of the season, EH finally dropped Francis; for Smith at right back and Daniels at left back, and then Smith at right back and Rico at left back, who was looking promising in appearances vs Leicester and Chelsea. Again, no problem with Francis playing, but when you shunt Smith out to the left, no matter how good he is there, you're left with a completely unbalanced squad. Which has been shown up quite brutally with this injury to Smith, leaving us with one right back until January.

I thought our summer transfers were excellent AND smart. A powerful midfielder, a tricky young No10 and an excellent left back, leaving Smith and Francis to compete for the starting RB slot, and Rico and Daniels to compete for the starting left back slot. But what actually ended up happening, to stress the point again, was Francis plays when fit, and three players compete with each other for one position. It's ridiculous. Even if we hadn't signed Rico, had converted Smith to LB, and signed a quality RB, I feel like a similar problem would occur, just with an unhappy RB sitting in the reserves instead of Rico, and Daniels left as the lone LB in the squad. I can't imagine Rico is particularly chuffed with the situation, considering he's only had one bad game so far, and has been unceremoniously dropped from the matchday squads entirely.

So with all that in mind, how do we line up now? Do we just stick with Francis, have Rico and Daniels competing at left back, and try to hold out until January? Does Lerma become our first choice midfielder AND second choice RB (A cursory look at his stats for Levante show that he didn't appear to play once in his last two seasons at RB)? Do we delve into our youth academy for a promising young right back and promote them to the squad? Do we move Fraser/Ibe back to wingback and play with a consistent back 3 (not a fan of this AT ALL)? I'd imagine we'll probably just try and hold out until January with what we have. We need to make sure we don't overexert Francis until then though, especially with the Carabao Quarter Final vs Chelsea coming up. With everyone fit and available, I'd like to see something like this for the time being...

--------------Begovic--------------
Francis----S. Cook----Ake----Rico
Brooks---L. Cook--Lerma---Fraser
--------Wilson--------King--------

Subs: Boruc, Daniels, Surman, Gosling, Stanislas, Ibe, Mousset


Its frustrating to be in the position where we're praying for Francis not to get injured, especially considering how strong our transfer business was, and how well we've started the season. Goes to show that Smith is probably even more important than you might think. But I suppose EH will just have to figure something out and make do with what he has for now. If we do go into the market looking for another Right Back, then EH will seriously have to reconsider where Francis sits in his squad, even if he is the captain. If we start the next season with Daniels and Francis as our starting fullbacks, with yet another fullback added to the squad AND Smith fit again, then that would be just absurd, and a waste of resources. Whatever the solution, Smith is, for me at least, in our top 3 of objectively good players, and we're going to miss his driving runs, attacking threat and quick transitions from defence to attack this season HEAVILY.
 

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