Jack Byrne

Purely hypothetical as I know nothing about him as a person, but could be questions marks over attitude as well. may have the ability, but for whatever reason didn't apply himself to realize his potential/talent.

may have grown up an gained more focus after moving back to Ireland?

I guess taps into the first point you make, but if the players head isn;t in the right place, there's only so much the club can do.
 
Kudos said:
I guess we only have movement of players and how they hold up in the respective leagues as a yardstick. Byrne is a Man City academy graduate who dropped division for 4 successive years in a row in England before ending up in the LOI. If less than 50 games later he's the best player in Ireland it means one of three things:

1. 4 English clubs and a Scottish club were unable to realise his talent even for the basement of English professional football
2. His ability has exploded from league 2 cast-off to at least Championship level in under a year.
3. The standard of the LOI is actually pretty low

While 1 and 2 aren't impossible they seem improbable which is why I lean towards 3.

All that said Michail Antonio for example went pretty much from non-league to Championship. It doesn't mean that non-league and the Championship are the same level so maybe it's not such a great yardstick!

I would suggest that perhaps all the great players that have featured in the LOI probably didn't spend their prime years there.
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As a young lad he was the most sought after player in Ireland.signed for man city on a great contract for a young lad .didn't get through there and moved down the leagues.more mature now and his ability is there for all to see.rovers played Milan a couple of weeks ago and wouldn't have been our of place on Milan team IMO. James mc clean was of similar age when going to Sunderland and though playing a different position is not a patch on Jack. Yet McLean has played in the premiership for 3 different clubs.we signed cook because he was a England u20 international for 10 million can't say that has been good value. Lioftus cheek England international 150,000 grand a week all because he was a England player and what about Solanke 19 million.Jack Byrne would be a bet to nothing and potentially the bargain of the year.
 
Istabraq said:
As a young lad he was the most sought after player in Ireland.signed for man city on a great contract for a young lad .didn't get through there and moved down the leagues.more mature now and his ability is there for all to see.rovers played Milan a couple of weeks ago and wouldn't have been our of place on Milan team IMO. James mc clean was of similar age when going to Sunderland and though playing a different position is not a patch on Jack. Yet McLean has played in the premiership for 3 different clubs.we signed cook because he was a England u20 international for 10 million can't say that has been good value. Lioftus cheek England international 150,000 grand a week all because he was a England player and what about Solanke 19 million.Jack Byrne would be a bet to nothing and potentially the bargain of the year.
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Are you Irish? You seem to be this guy's biggest cheerleader yet he's failed at a lower level than we are now and a much lower level in Scotland.
 
Istabraq said:
As a young lad he was the most sought after player in Ireland.signed for man city on a great contract for a young lad .didn't get through there and moved down the leagues.more mature now and his ability is there for all to see.rovers played Milan a couple of weeks ago and wouldn't have been our of place on Milan team IMO. James mc clean was of similar age when going to Sunderland and though playing a different position is not a patch on Jack. Yet McLean has played in the premiership for 3 different clubs.we signed cook because he was a England u20 international for 10 million can't say that has been good value. Lioftus cheek England international 150,000 grand a week all because he was a England player and what about Solanke 19 million.Jack Byrne would be a bet to nothing and potentially the bargain of the year.
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sounds like he could be worth a shot if costing next to nothing, must have something about him to have started at City.

Wonder if a lucrative contract at such a young age effected his drive/focus?? Plus living in a lively city like Manchester, may have been distracted?
 
MB1980 said:
sounds like he could be worth a shot if costing next to nothing, must have something about him to have started at City.

Wonder if a lucrative contract at such a young age effected his drive/focus?? Plus living in a lively city like Manchester, may have been distracted?
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Alot of money at a young age didn't help .fact that he is free and hungry to give it a last shot would make me sign him.look on you tube and you can see his quality. What have we to loose.
 
Istabraq said:
Alot of money at a young age didn't help .fact that he is free and hungry to give it a last shot would make me sign him.look on you tube and you can see his quality. What have we to loose.
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Fair point, I know what I was like during my teens-mid twenties. Guessing he was on at least 5k a week from how you're talking. Moving to an exciting city on big money could certainly have an impact on a lot of peoples careers
 
MB1980 said:
he's not playing well at present, but has produced at PL level. What has your mate achieved in the game so far?
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At present ?hasn't played well in nearly over a year.byrne would have been a free and IMO a no brainer.player of the year in Ireland thus year and in the international squad.yes he was wayward as a kid (to much to soon,had a big contract as a kid at man city)still only 24 and went to Cyprus because of Mick.mc Carthy.
 
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