Non - Brexit

Not sure which is sadder putting up clips without even watching them or listening through the whole morose thing .
 
the ability of normal people to control the decisions that are made about their lives, which is literally the entire reason they cast their vote

The turnout in local elections is around 30% of those eligible to vote, that seems a long way short of normal people seeing the democratic deficiency as anything other than a soundbite.
 
JIMNNINA said:
the ability of normal people to control the decisions that are made about their lives, which is literally the entire reason they cast their vote

The turnout in local elections is around 30% of those eligible to vote, that seems a long way short of normal people seeing the democratic deficiency as anything other than a soundbite.
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What has local election turnout got to do with anything? National parliament is sovereign not local councils. All powers that councils have are given to them by national government and can be taken away. They can also give powers to supranational bodies but apparently they can't take those back.

The first/second most popular reason people voted to leave the EU according to most polls was sovereignty. It clearly is something that is important to some people so I don't know why you are trying to argue it isn't. It might not be important to you but it clearly is to many people, enough to swing the referendum.
 
JIMNNINA said:
the ability of normal people to control the decisions that are made about their lives, which is literally the entire reason they cast their vote

The turnout in local elections is around 30% of those eligible to vote, that seems a long way short of normal people seeing the democratic deficiency as anything other than a soundbite.
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Weather it’s 30% or 93% that’s an irrelevance as the non voters vote becomes the winners vote .

I’m sure there is a point somewhere your trying to make other than just being a contrarian ..So if your point is the democratic process means nothing the effects of political decisions mean nothing ..why the fcuk do keep moaning on and on and on about the decisions politicians are making.
Obviously “soundbite” is going to be jimnninas weird word of the week .
 
Local government and local elections are a pointless layer in the democratic process then.
Potholes, libraries, parks, schools have no part in the daily lives of normal people.
 
JIMNNINA said:
Local government and local elections are a pointless layer in the democratic process then.
Potholes, libraries, parks, schools have no part in the daily lives of normal people.
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Hold on you’ve been saying the whole democratic thing is pointless . Make your mind up for Christ sake .
How on earth can you take what SDD has said and come up with that conclusion . Local government is used as a way to not allow all decisions to be made by a giant centralized government .One area of a country may have different needs to another ...leavers feel that one more layer of government on a European level isn’t nessesary . We would rather run the country at a national level than a European level .
 
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JIMNNINA said:
the ability of normal people to control the decisions that are made about their lives, which is literally the entire reason they cast their vote

The turnout in local elections is around 30% of those eligible to vote, that seems a long way short of normal people seeing the democratic deficiency as anything other than a soundbite.
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Did you have an issue with the democratic process before this vote went against your wishes ?
 
What exactly is a 'normal people'....?....... Is a 'normal' person to be found say, on a pork pie production line 'Knowing' what he is doing or as an MP in the House of Commons 'Not knowing' what he is doing?
How is a ' Soundbite' relevant to Farmer f##king McUdders in the middle of South Ayrshire at 4 o' clock in the morning when his Alarm Cock called Jock pecks him awake? Or is that ironically..a Soundbite?

There are thousands of different types of people....thinking that others are 'not normal' because they think differently than they do!

Basic categories include Stable Introverts, Stable Extroverts, Unstable Intr overts and Unstable Extroverts.....but then What is Basic?
 
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Over the past century there has been a general election roughly every three and a half years, yet to hold a second vote 3 years later is apparently undemocratic.
 
JIMNNINA said:
Local government and local elections are a pointless layer in the democratic process then.
Potholes, libraries, parks, schools have no part in the daily lives of normal people.
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What are you talking about? Of course they aren't a pointless layer in the democratic process. People engage in local government politics as much or as little as they like - if they don't like how things are done they can vote accordingly.

People can also vote to leave the EU because they think it's lack of democratic accountability is a very bad thing whether you approve of their reasons or not.
 
stanthevan said:
Over the past century there has been a general election roughly every three and a half years, yet to hold a second vote 3 years later is apparently undemocratic.
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And the space between “once in a lifetime “ referenda...I won’t expect a reply . I’ve been on ignore since sensitive Stan’s spectacular fighter pilot own goal .
 
The first/second most popular reason people voted to leave the EU according to most polls was sovereignty. (an unspecified % of the 52% of those eligible to vote who voted leave, a maximum of 1 in 5 )
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The turnout at the most local layer of sovereignty/democratic non deficit is around 1 in 3 of eligible voters.

Something doesn't add up.
 
JIMNNINA said:
The first/second most popular reason people voted to leave the EU according to most polls was sovereignty. (an unspecified % of the 52% of those eligible to vote who voted leave, a maximum of 1 in 5 )
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The turnout at the most local layer of sovereignty/democratic non deficit is around 1 in 3 of eligible voters.

Something doesn't add up.
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Yeah your logic .

I think it wouldn’t be too much of a stretch to guess that those that didn’t vote in the referendum also don’t vote in local elections ....what is you obsession with non voters . They are an irrelevance to this conversation .

Anyway this is just me falling into the jimnnina whataboutery trap , I hav’nt the faintest idea what your on about . Perhaps another poster might enlighten me .
 
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