Non - Brexit

From the UK media.

FRANCE could hand over its United Nations Security Council seat to the European Union in the next step toward the creation of a genuine bloc-wide army.

Emmanuel Macron is spearheading plans for a “European Defence Union” of closer military integration in the wake of the submarine row with Australia and the US withdrawal from Afghanistan. A close ally of the French President has suggested his push for an EU army could result in a serious discussion about the bloc’s representation on the Security Council. Sandro Gozi, an MEP for Mr Macron’s party, said: “I think that if we move on these things we can put on the table also the discussion on the Security Council.”

https://www.express.co.uk/news/poli...e-United-Nations-Security-Council-seat-latest

From the French media.

France said that it would not give up its UN Security Council seat. Paris: France denied a report in Britain's The Daily Telegraph on Wednesday that it would be prepared to give its permanent seat at the UN Security Council to the European Union.

https://www.ndtv.com/world-news/fra...anent-un-security-council-seat-report-2549463
 
I can't see France giving up its seat while UK continues to hold it's place. This was always an underlying issue pre-Brexit.
 
Well we will need something to keep the lights on after decades of a crazy energy policy. One thing I am jealous of with France is their nuclear power policy, keeps the lights on and maintains steady prices - must make the Germans jealous now they have the highest electric prices in the world.
 
Well we will need something to keep the lights on after decades of a crazy energy policy. One thing I am jealous of with France is their nuclear power policy, keeps the lights on and maintains steady prices - must make the Germans jealous now they have the highest electric prices in the world.

Unless you are in rural France.
Always half a dozen or so power cuts in winter.
Always sorted within the hour mind.
We get our electric from "The Rance" water dam at St Malo.
 
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Taking back control comes at a cost

The government is set to pay out tens of millions of pounds to restart production of carbon dioxide at a key plant in the UK amid fears over food supplies and the nuclear industry.
The government will meet the full operating costs to run CF Industries' Teesside plant for three weeks.
US-owned CF Industries recently shut two sites that produce 60% of the UK's commercial carbon dioxide supplies.
Gas price crisis: Government to pay millions to restart CO2 supplies - BBC News
 
So global gas price rises are down to Brexit?

The Co2 shortage due to a US company based in the UK, closes two plants due to high gas prices are down to Brexit?

I get that Brexit has caused problems with lots of things but primarily this isn’t really one of them is it? Even pro EU media outlets aren’t claiming it as they latest thing to hit Brexiteers over the head with?
 
So global gas price rises are down to Brexit?

The Co2 shortage due to a US company based in the UK, closes two plants due to high gas prices are down to Brexit?

I get that Brexit has caused problems with lots of things but primarily this isn’t really one of them is it? Even pro EU media outlets aren’t claiming it as they latest thing to hit Brexiteers over the head with?

Haven't gas prices risen much more here than anywhere else?
 
Haven't gas prices risen much more here than anywhere else?
It is very much an international market where supply and demand dictates, of course he who can turn supply up and down can dictate - Mr Putin in the EU and UK case. Where the UK is suffering badly is in storage where our storage capacity has been run down over decades. We currently have a storage capacity for gas at about a sixth of Germany and a tenth of Italy's, although of course we do still produce from the North Sea.
https://www.ft.com/content/564a1ec0-8288-11e7-a4ce-15b2513cb3ff
The USA has no such problem having embraced fracking and their prices have not moved up much if at all, in fact they are now a gas exporter.
The Germans however are feeling the pain, though not all to do with gas prices - a lot is to do with them closing their nuclear stations, they are now looking at reopening coal fired power stations.
https://blackout-news.de/en/news/electricity-prices-reach-new-record/
 
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So global gas price rises are down to Brexit?

The Co2 shortage due to a US company based in the UK, closes two plants due to high gas prices are down to Brexit?

I get that Brexit has caused problems with lots of things but primarily this isn’t really one of them is it? Even pro EU media outlets aren’t claiming it as they latest thing to hit Brexiteers over the head with?
So no control to take back over the things that matter
 
The lack of gas storage capacity is directly down to the government’s lack of strategic vision. A large former gas field in the North Sea (The Rough field) provided capacity for about nine days’ gas supply on its own, but the government allowed Centrica to close it a few years ago without taking any steps to replace it. With no reserves available the UK becomes wholly dependent on international prices day to day.

Of course having reserves can’t buck the trend of market prices in the longer term, but they do help reduce the extreme peaks that led to the CO2 crisis.

They also mean that the taxpayer is less likely to get screwed over by a US firm.
 
"Claims made by Boris Johnson and Michael Gove a month before the 2016 EU referendum that gas bills will be cheaper if Brits back Brexit resurfaced as UK is currently facing massive gas price hikes.
In The Sun, the ministers argued leaving the EU would allow the UK to scrap a £2 billion annual tax on gas and electricity prices – and fund it out of £11 billion a year saved from Britain’s contributions to the European Commission.
Writing for the newspaper on 30 May 2016, the Tory “Out” campaigners promised: “Fuel bills will be lower for everyone”. Labour’s Gisela Stuart also signed the article at the time, which argued the VAT on bills hits the poorest the most.
Britain moved this week to reduce Universal Credit for millions of families, as well as to increase the national insurance payments, which are believed to hit the young and poorest the hardest"
 
Er, by being part of a bigger buying group and having more clout?

Stupid I know...
Doesn't work that way Rob. Each country in the EU buys its own supplies as they are so diverse in their needs and own methods of electricity production. Goes from largely nuclear in France to loads of home produced coal in Poland.
 

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