Non - Pandemic

Are we allowed to discuss if this came out of a Wuhan lab yet and the Chinese are still covering up or is it still the blame Boris/Cummings show ?
Does seem to have been flurry of articles and stories out of the US on that in recent days. Unsure how that ever translates into proof either way, or what the world would/could actually do about it. But it would be nice to know one way or the other.
 
Does seem to have been flurry of articles and stories out of the US on that in recent days. Unsure how that ever translates into proof either way, or what the world would/could actually do about it. But it would be nice to know one way or the other.
China will just deny everything, so really solid proof will be needed.

but then what? Do we impose sanctions or stop trading with China? And would it make any difference to them?
 
China will just deny everything, so really solid proof will be needed.

but then what? Do we impose sanctions or stop trading with China? And would it make any difference to them?

It won’t make a blind bit of difference. Apparently the idea that it jumped from animal to human from one of their markets is more palatable and yet they won’t even ban them.
 
It won’t make a blind bit of difference. Apparently the idea that it jumped from animal to human from one of their markets is more palatable and yet they won’t even ban them.

It’s seems it’s a way of life over there and probably just won’t change.
 
BBC - Europe

Second para, not AZ this time.

The head of Spain’s health emergency centre Fernando Simón has appealed for a lowering of the euphoria surrounding the decision to allow in tourists from 10 non-EU countries including the UK. Spain is on the UK’s amber list, so non-essential travel is discouraged and a 10-day quarantine required. Mr Simón said while he thought the associated risks could be controlled he would rather that the announcement of the reopening was made with “a low voice”. So far international tourist arrivals at the big resorts have been slow since Monday's announcement.

A number of French influencers and YouTubers say they have been approached by a marketing campaign with the aim of publicising false information about the Pfizer-Biontech vaccine. Science YouTuber Léo Grasset says he was astonished to get the request from an agency that said they had a massive budget but wished to remain anonymous.

Meanwhile, a public health official in Lille in northern France has said he’s worried that the exuberance of Lille football supporters celebrating their Ligue 1 championship victory will lead to a spike in cases. Philippe Amouyel, public health professor at Lille hospital, says the dense crowds carry significant risk and those who took part will need testing.
 
Reports that William Shakespeare, first man in the world to receive Pfizer jab (and 2nd in the world to Margaret Keenan) has passed away from unrelated illness
 
Test events involving a total of 58,000 people including an indoor rave in Liverpool and the Fa Cup final has resulted in.......

15 positive cases.

let’s crack on with normal life now please.
Is that a true reflection of society on which to open up entirely though?
They all took pre tests as required (how many failed so didn't attend), or because they wanted to go to event, they altered their behaviour accordingly (and therefore impression is slightly false)
Or if you meant let's crack in with normal life, but that involves taking these tests every time, then yes, I agree with you
 
Are we allowed to discuss if this came out of a Wuhan lab yet and the Chinese are still covering up or is it still the blame Boris/Cummings show ?
The source and spread of the pandemic is a separate topic to the performance of the UK government in managing uk emergency and disaster planning.

Cummings now seems to moving Boris to the top of the scapegoat list.
 

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