boscombe botn
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Having seen the replays from various angles, I am still not convinced that the whole of the ball was over the whole of the line!
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Whether or not we personally feel the ball is over the line from any TV shot is in all reality irrelevant, like it or not.
The cameras they use are not televised but they have a minimum of 6 installed around each goal, so even if 1 or 2 are blocked, they will still have a perfect 3D view.
The cameras they use are not televised but they have a minimum of 6 installed around each goal, so even if 1 or 2 are blocked, they will still have a perfect 3D view.
DJ
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As someone who is opposed to goal-line technology, I'm happy to say it worked perfectly.
The technology is not to know when a decision is potentially controversial or not, so showing the first instance when it hit the post it did its job showing the ball was on the line and not over the line.
I think the only reason why there was confusion was because it was being shown in real-life for a real close incident for the first time.
The second phase after hitting the 'keeper, the graphic showed it marginally over the line, proving that camera angles alone will never be enough.
We've argued before when people see one angle that the ball was over the line, only for someone else to say it wasn't from another, this was the perfect example of this.
Three or four angles made it look on the line, whilst only one which had the post blocking the view showed that potentially the whole ball could have crossed the line.
The technology got it right and importantly it was instant.
The other arguments over its use still stand though. :grin:
The technology is not to know when a decision is potentially controversial or not, so showing the first instance when it hit the post it did its job showing the ball was on the line and not over the line.
I think the only reason why there was confusion was because it was being shown in real-life for a real close incident for the first time.
The second phase after hitting the 'keeper, the graphic showed it marginally over the line, proving that camera angles alone will never be enough.
We've argued before when people see one angle that the ball was over the line, only for someone else to say it wasn't from another, this was the perfect example of this.
Three or four angles made it look on the line, whilst only one which had the post blocking the view showed that potentially the whole ball could have crossed the line.
The technology got it right and importantly it was instant.
The other arguments over its use still stand though. :grin:
Silent AFCB
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Tbh they should extend it for the touch lines and offside. As with crossing the line, it's a simple yes/no which could be instant. Off-side would be more difficult but entirely do-able.
FIFA can't really do it because of GoalRef though. Only Hawkeye could do it.
Officials can then concentrate on getting decisions right which will never be able to use technology, such as fouls.
FIFA can't really do it because of GoalRef though. Only Hawkeye could do it.
Officials can then concentrate on getting decisions right which will never be able to use technology, such as fouls.
DJ
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DJ - 20/2/2013 16:12
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Football should be the same across all levels of football, unless they develop something simple and instant that is cheap and works no matter what the level I'm not interested and Hawk Eye with its 12 cameras and computer graphics does not provide this.
It also threatens the use of more technology being introduced which would not be good. Players are not immune to making errors and neither are officials, its all been part of the game for 150 years and it all seems to have worked rather well until now.
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/9415698/dutch-fa-hopeful-on-bid-for-video-technology-to-be-approved-by-fifa
<I>The Dutch FA have revealed they have trialled a video technology system to positive effect and have the support of the English FA.
The International Football Association Board will be presented with the proposal, which would allow managers to halt play and challenge one contentious decision against their side in each half.
A video official within the stadium would then be able to advise the referee on a decision with the help of replayed footage.</I>
billythekid
UTC Legend
Think they have something similar in cricket and tennis where you have so many chances to appeal a decision, are there any other sports?
DJ
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DJ - 12/8/2014 10:55
DJ - 20/2/2013 16:12
Football should be the same across all levels of football, unless they develop something simple and instant that is cheap and works no matter what the level I'm not interested and Hawk Eye with its 12 cameras and computer graphics does not provide this.
It also threatens the use of more technology being introduced which would not be good. Players are not immune to making errors and neither are officials, its all been part of the game for 150 years and it all seems to have worked rather well until now.
http://www1.skysports.com/football/news/11095/9415698/dutch-fa-hopeful-on-bid-for-video-technology-to-be-approved-by-fifa
<I>The Dutch FA have revealed they have trialled a video technology system to positive effect and have the support of the English FA.
The International Football Association Board will be presented with the proposal, which would allow managers to halt play and challenge one contentious decision against their side in each half.
A video official within the stadium would then be able to advise the referee on a decision with the help of replayed footage.</I>
A TV replay system allowing coaches to challenge a referee's decision may be trialled next year, Fifa president Sepp Blatter has announced.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/29109481
The International Football Association Board will be presented with the proposal, which would allow managers to halt play and challenge one contentious decision against their side in each half.
Halt play or only when ball goes out of play ?
Challenges in tennis have become a tactic to break up play, needs to be cost for failed challenge eg manager to the stands for 20 minutes, manager to attend rules of the game session and test.
Will challenge only be allowed for managers who know the laws of the game and have passed a test on them ? 'He got the ball......'
Halt play or only when ball goes out of play ?
Challenges in tennis have become a tactic to break up play, needs to be cost for failed challenge eg manager to the stands for 20 minutes, manager to attend rules of the game session and test.
Will challenge only be allowed for managers who know the laws of the game and have passed a test on them ? 'He got the ball......'
TrueCherry
Star Player
This won't make anything easier for managers.
Imagine the manager challenging something which is overturned and he is not then able to make a second challenge for something that was clearly wrong - chairman sacks manager for wrong decision making!
Imagine the manager challenging something which is overturned and he is not then able to make a second challenge for something that was clearly wrong - chairman sacks manager for wrong decision making!
RobTrent
UTC Legend
This doesn't actually bring 'football' into any century, only the top flight levels that can afford the technology. Not only is there an elite league now, but it seems there will be an elite rule base for those clubs. This also seems to follow the trend of underming decision making by referees, in stark contrast to the 'Respect' campaign.
Simply hailing all change as progress is a shallow approach. Ruling out tackles from behind was good; 3 points for a win seems good, but has it made a difference?; play-offs were an excellent idea . Those rules could be (and were) applied at all levels.
Simply hailing all change as progress is a shallow approach. Ruling out tackles from behind was good; 3 points for a win seems good, but has it made a difference?; play-offs were an excellent idea . Those rules could be (and were) applied at all levels.
Druss_the_Legend
UTC Legend
I like the idea. I enjoy tennis and the technology is not at all levels of tennis but when its used its great. Same with rugby.
