Jason Tindall

Not much can be as ' underwhelming' as Frasergate...and others not showing grit and determination...on Eddies watch.
I think we all need to just be the best we can be with support for our Cherries...see things emerge and see the Results on the field.
Basic Goals For and Against... and judge it again 1/4 way through any season that manages to get underway....
Get down off our perches ...and stay cheerful and thankful if grounds open again!
 
But I am sure he will get your unstinting support in the event that he is offered the position?

JT’s got a lot about him.He had a lot of input over the years to make this club better & although he probably isn’t the No1 choice of some fans everyone should show a bit of respect & the same kind of loyalty they’d expect to have from JT.
 
Why do we have to slavishly follow other club's formula?

AFCB's transition from perennial Div 1 club to credible force in the PL was virtually unique. It was done the Bournemouth way from within the "family". We are different and I think that is something to cherish, not shy away from. JT is a Cherry. Anyone brought in will initially be a wage slave or a journeyman.

Let's not fool ourselves that we are the best gig out there. JT being thrust into the full glare is worth a punt and he has earned his chance.
 
Why do we have to slavishly follow other club's formula?

AFCB's transition from perennial Div 1 club to credible force in the PL was virtually unique. It was done the Bournemouth way from within the "family". We are different and I think that is something to cherish, not shy away from. JT is a Cherry. Anyone brought in will initially be a wage slave or a journeyman.

Let's not fool ourselves that we are the best gig out there. JT being thrust into the full glare is worth a punt and he has earned his chance.

I think you make a great point in that it was a unique event that got us to where we are.

I think where I diverge is where you appear to suggest we have some special football dynasty rather than one guy who was world class and his mates who he took along for the ride.

EH wouldn't be working 14+ hours a day if he had people around him he trusted to do as good a job as he would do.
 
Why do we have to slavishly follow other club's formula?

AFCB's transition from perennial Div 1 club to credible force in the PL was virtually unique. It was done the Bournemouth way from within the "family". We are different and I think that is something to cherish, not shy away from. JT is a Cherry. Anyone brought in will initially be a wage slave or a journeyman.

Let's not fool ourselves that we are the best gig out there. JT being thrust into the full glare is worth a punt and he has earned his chance.

I can't remember many less popular people with the fans prior to Eddie taking over, including Quinn. Tindall had a go at fans after Blyth and was roundly told to "f*ck off" after another abject showing at Brentford. The only reason he recovered any credibility with the fans was by getting lucky and hanging onto Howe's coat tails.

I'll always support the club whoever is in charge and maybe the guy has learnt what he needs to in the past 12 years but I can't imagine a more uninspiring choice. The sort of choice a well and truly skint club would make.

Heavily odds on now too.
 
OK, so having had 24 hrs to think about all of this now... I don't for a second doubt Tindall is a decent guy and has been suggested above, could make a good go of it... However, this is all about different things here... Firstly, the fact that Tindall is still at the club, 100% conforms to me that Eddie walked... He probably walked because he couldn't agree to the directions and assurances the club put on the table for him, which suggest several possible things... Change in style? Change in backroom staff? Change in the running of things (recruitment, for example), change in focus on infrastructure...? Who knows... but the key word here is 'change'...

IMO, and that is all it is, Tindall would not bring about change, or enough of a change to stop a slide which we are blatantly in... He may have different ideas and be willing to offer up a new direction from Eddie, but he learnt everything he knows, from Eddie... Would Tindall's change be enough to show a different and new direction...

We talk here of other coaches that have learnt their trade under great managers and have gone on to be great managers themselves, but the key difference is they went on to become great managers at other clubs... not the same one. They were then allowed to prosper in a different environment, with different owners, different ideas, with different players etc. etc. It was new... a reset... 100%. Not just stepping in the shoes of your mentor, where like it or not, you might be tempted to still do things to follow in those shoes... Be that consciously or consciously...

I like Tindall, but I've always considered him to be one of the luckiest folks on the planet (in AFCB circles), closely followed by Fletch, bu that is not to assume in all these years he's not picked up a lot of great skills to take forward for his career, but I think they probably need to be away from this club... OR, still behind the scenes with a new No.1

If he was selected, then naturally I'd back him 100%, but for me it needs to be a new face, with new ideas, and possibly new backroom faces as well... As it obviously seems the club want to hit that reset button and begin a new era in a new direction.

Edited: to say I think I duplicated a post so deleted one... Not changed it in any way tho...
 
OK, so having had 24 hrs to think about all of this now... I don't for a second doubt Tindall is a decent guy and has been suggested above, could make a good go of it... However, this is all about different things here... Firstly, the fact that Tindall is still at the club, 100% conforms to me that Eddie walked... He probably walked because he couldn't agree to the directions and assurances the club put on the table for him, which suggest several possible things... Change in style? Change in backroom staff? Change in the running of things (recruitment, for example), change in focus on infrastructure...? Who knows... but the key word here is 'change'...

IMO, and that is all it is, Tindall would not bring about change, or enough of a change to stop a slide which we are blatantly in... He may have different ideas and be willing to offer up a new direction from Eddie, but he learnt everything he knows, from Eddie... Would Tindall's change be enough to show a different and new direction...

We talk here of other coaches that have learnt their trade under great managers and have gone on to be great managers themselves, but the key difference is they went on to become great managers at other clubs... not the same one. They were then allowed to prosper in a different environment, with different owners, different ideas, with different players etc. etc. It was new... a reset... 100%. Not just stepping in the shoes of your mentor, where like it or not, you might be tempted to still do things to follow in those shoes... Be that consciously or consciously...

I like Tindall, but I've always considered him to be one of the luckiest folks on the planet (in AFCB circles), closely followed by Fletch, bu that is not to assume in all these years he's not picked up a lot of great skills to take forward for his career, but I think they probably need to be away from this club... OR, still behind the scenes with a new No.1

If he was selected, then naturally I'd back him 100%, but for me it needs to be a new face, with new ideas, and possibly new backroom faces as well... As it obviously seems the club want to hit that reset button and begin a new era in a new direction.
I would like this twice if I could.
 
Appointing Tindall would be to suffer all the immense pain of losing Eddie, without any of the potential benefit of a new take on our squad, tactics and processes. Worst of both worlds.

With the new season underway soon, continuity does have it's merits, I can see that. Even another internal man like Purches or Molesley would at least be 1 step removed from Eddie and might have some new perspective. Not that I really think it's the right time for them either.
 
Tindall is the Andrew Ridgely of football.
Quality ! That's exactly how I see it. He was Andrew Ridgley to Eddie's George Michael. :clap:

On a more serious note, I'm pretty convinced appointing JT manager would be a bad idea. For the players already here, he will subconsciously always be Eddie's number two. If they didn't always perform for Eddie then I think it's very unlikely they'll perform any better under the man they see as not fit to lace Eddie's boots.
Although having said that, I think Tinders is the sort of bloke to eff and blind and possibly punch somebody who he thinks is taking the piss. But no, overall I can't see it inspiring the players to new heights.
 
I don't get this call for Tindall to take charge, surely he had a major say with Eddie in his team selection and formations, lets be honest Eddie lost it in the last year or so, we need some fresh ideas imo. I don't get why Lee Johnson is being talked about either, he was a failure as Bristol City manager.
 
I've seen some odd behaviour from a few players over the years when JT has tried to give them instructions almost to the point of them completely ignoring the bloke. I'm not sure he commands the same respect Eddie did.

However I can understand him being asked to hang around until things are sorted, then I'd expect him to be absorbed into the background or given the shove, as without doubt Eddie will call on him after his sabbatical.
 
Eddie mainly had all the interviews and stories written about him and our success.

But JT has been part of that success as well, but what has Eddie’s ‘silent parter‘ contributed towards our success?

You don’t hear many interviews with Jason either.

Now JT is odds on favourite with the bookies to replace Eddie I had a quick look to see what has been said about his part of the successful partnership and found these two old articles.


Behind the scenes, assistant manager Tindall, who is also 38, has played a major part.

Howe said: “He has been pivotal. At first, I didn’t know how it would work. Jason had retired like me and we coached together and it fitted straight away.

“He is the only person who really gets my philosophy, or now it is our philosophy.

“We are very, very different. I am the one who looks at things negatively to get a positive response. Jason is always positive. He is very good with people.

“We argue a lot. He is very stubborn and if I could change that I would. Actually, we are both stubborn.

“I always said when we started, ‘I don’t want you to agree with me if you don’t’. I now regret saying that!

“We go at it here in this office with our disagreements. People hear it down the corridors and say, ‘Oh, they’re having a tiff’.”

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/foot...-he-is-to-be-touted-as-a-future-england-boss/

The Howe and Tindall double act has been an integral part of Bournemouth’s story. Aged 40 and born 14 days apart, they have spent the past 10 years virtually living in one another’s pockets. They share an office at the training ground and occupy the same space in the technical area. “I don’t really see that at many other clubs,” Tindall says. “I’d say I’m up with Ed on the touchline more so than probably any other assistant. We’re constantly talking to each other – it’s the way we’ve always been.”

Tindall is also known for being in someone else’s ear quite a lot. “I know where this is going,” he says, laughing. “I like to think that I get on well with fourth officials. I think I’ve got better with the way I approach them, being respectful. There’s been times as well, don’t you worry about that, where Ed says, ‘Go on, get into them’, so it’s not all my own doing!”

As former Bournemouth teammates who played alongside one another in central defence, the natural assumption is that Howe and Tindall were an obvious partnership. Yet they were never close off the field as players and, in the words of Howe, “didn’t really have a relationship”. When Howe left to join Portsmouth in 2002, they never stayed in touch. Asked whether they socialised together during their playing days, Tindall chuckles as he says: “Only at the Christmas party. And I won’t tell you the outfits he dressed up in.”

As a management duo, however, they clicked straight away. Tindall had been No 2 to Jimmy Quinn, who was sacked on New Year’s Eve in 2008, and he remained in that role when Howe took over. At the time they were the youngest management team in the Football League and not everyone warmed to the sight of two blokes in their early 30s winning matches. “You look across and there’s someone who has managed 300-400 games, you’re 10 or 12 games in and you can tell they’re thinking: ‘Who the hell do you think you are?’”

Those days knocking around League Two provide a frame of reference for Bournemouth’s position now, off as well as on the field. After a summer when they paid a club-record £25m for Jefferson Lerma of Colombia, it seems remarkable to think Howe and Tindall were once putting their hands in their own pockets to cover the cost of a fitness coach and a masseur. “We did that a few times, not just with staffing,” Tindall says. “The money wouldn’t have been there at the club at the time. It set us back a bit but looking back, it was worth it.”

https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...rnemouth-assistant-manager-eddie-howe-burnley
 
Eddie mainly had all the interviews and stories written about him and our success.

But JT has been part of that success as well, but what has Eddie’s ‘silent parter‘ contributed towards our success?

You don’t hear many interviews with Jason either.

Now JT is odds on favourite with the bookies to replace Eddie I had a quick look to see what has been said about his part of the successful partnership and found these two old articles.


Behind the scenes, assistant manager Tindall, who is also 38, has played a major part.

Howe said: “He has been pivotal. At first, I didn’t know how it would work. Jason had retired like me and we coached together and it fitted straight away.

“He is the only person who really gets my philosophy, or now it is our philosophy.

“We are very, very different. I am the one who looks at things negatively to get a positive response. Jason is always positive. He is very good with people.

“We argue a lot. He is very stubborn and if I could change that I would. Actually, we are both stubborn.

“I always said when we started, ‘I don’t want you to agree with me if you don’t’. I now regret saying that!

“We go at it here in this office with our disagreements. People hear it down the corridors and say, ‘Oh, they’re having a tiff’.”

https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/foot...-he-is-to-be-touted-as-a-future-england-boss/

The Howe and Tindall double act has been an integral part of Bournemouth’s story. Aged 40 and born 14 days apart, they have spent the past 10 years virtually living in one another’s pockets. They share an office at the training ground and occupy the same space in the technical area. “I don’t really see that at many other clubs,” Tindall says. “I’d say I’m up with Ed on the touchline more so than probably any other assistant. We’re constantly talking to each other – it’s the way we’ve always been.”

Tindall is also known for being in someone else’s ear quite a lot. “I know where this is going,” he says, laughing. “I like to think that I get on well with fourth officials. I think I’ve got better with the way I approach them, being respectful. There’s been times as well, don’t you worry about that, where Ed says, ‘Go on, get into them’, so it’s not all my own doing!”

As former Bournemouth teammates who played alongside one another in central defence, the natural assumption is that Howe and Tindall were an obvious partnership. Yet they were never close off the field as players and, in the words of Howe, “didn’t really have a relationship”. When Howe left to join Portsmouth in 2002, they never stayed in touch. Asked whether they socialised together during their playing days, Tindall chuckles as he says: “Only at the Christmas party. And I won’t tell you the outfits he dressed up in.”

As a management duo, however, they clicked straight away. Tindall had been No 2 to Jimmy Quinn, who was sacked on New Year’s Eve in 2008, and he remained in that role when Howe took over. At the time they were the youngest management team in the Football League and not everyone warmed to the sight of two blokes in their early 30s winning matches. “You look across and there’s someone who has managed 300-400 games, you’re 10 or 12 games in and you can tell they’re thinking: ‘Who the hell do you think you are?’”

Those days knocking around League Two provide a frame of reference for Bournemouth’s position now, off as well as on the field. After a summer when they paid a club-record £25m for Jefferson Lerma of Colombia, it seems remarkable to think Howe and Tindall were once putting their hands in their own pockets to cover the cost of a fitness coach and a masseur. “We did that a few times, not just with staffing,” Tindall says. “The money wouldn’t have been there at the club at the time. It set us back a bit but looking back, it was worth it.”

https://www.theguardian.com/footbal...rnemouth-assistant-manager-eddie-howe-burnley
They are different but worked well together.reading that article things could be different under JT.
 

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