Investigation into training

How many top players make top coaches or managers?....not many tbf........being able to do something extremely well and teaching someone to do something extremely well are two very different things............i think that rings true in every sport.

A lot of this depends how you define ‘top’ players I guess. For every Charlton there’s a Guardiola or Zidane as genius off the pitch as on it. Deschamps, Beckenbauer and the less quoted Zagallo won the World Cup as players and managers. Dalglish won the double as a player and manager. Southgate was arguably not a top player but has done the major tournaments and look how he learned from them and referenced them constantly when getting the best performance out of a more average group of players than their predecessors.

You are right, being good at something doesn’t mean you can teach it. That has to be the start point. I think the next point is understanding the environment you are in and the players you are mixing with. This is easier when you have done it. Bobby Charlton and Bobby Moore are the cliched examples of failed brilliant players but both went to struggling lower league teams (Preston and Southend) and environments and players they struggled to relate to.

Perhaps Guardiola and Zidane would have amounted to nothing had their careers started at Roots Hall (although the gates would have gone up :grinning:) Mourinho is the cliched example of an untalented player who conquered the worlds most powerful dressing rooms but he had years of soaking in the environment of Barcelona and was an intelligent man.

So first point is to be able to coach, second is to understand the environment and the third for me is the ‘inspirational’ factor. Players often sign for managers and until you build a reputation (like Eddie has) the name counts. There will be a lot of players who fancy signing for a Lampard and Gerrard because they will think he must be able to make me a better individual. That may be misconceived but so many say it, it is clearly a defining factor.
 
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A few mates and I were talking about this the other night.With all the backroom staff we have at the moment,you have to say we've been successful,you cant deny it.So apart from buying all the top players,which were never going to do,Leicester aside,were never going to be a top six side.But maybe to push on to be a team that could finish in seventh or eighth,a new coach with higher long term coaching could be useful.One mate thinks Eddie likes to keep it inhouse as he doesn't want to be undermined,not my thoughts though
 
A few mates and I were talking about this the other night.With all the backroom staff we have at the moment,you have to say we've been successful,you cant deny it.So apart from buying all the top players,which were never going to do,Leicester aside,were never going to be a top six side.But maybe to push on to be a team that could finish in seventh or eighth,a new coach with higher long term coaching could be useful.One mate thinks Eddie likes to keep it inhouse as he doesn't want to be undermined,not my thoughts though

Yep, one would be great. A specialist defensive coach. That’s all it would take for me to show that we weren’t insular and could think a little expansively. It’s not about league position for me, we are way above what our rightful position should be even if we finish 22nd. It’s about are the team and individuals performing to their max.

In the last ten years we have been treated to a lot of teams and individuals giving more than we thought possible. Last season, for the first time under Eddie we saw teams and individuals frequently giving less than they were capable of. There are many ways of trying to fix that, my opinion is we might be missing one obvious one...
 
Listening to Frank Clark this morning talking about Brian Clough.

One of Cloughie’s training methods was to have the players run through nettles.

Not sure if that was in bare feet or not. :grinning:
 

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