SlowDownDerek
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Er, because the attacking team are usually intelligent enough to work their way past such a simple tactic.
One bloke making a run from deep will put a stop to that tactic soon enough.
Er, because the attacking team are usually intelligent enough to work their way past such a simple tactic.
Exactly, defenders moving out en masse used to be a popular tactic at one time, particularly when the offside law was interpreted as any player being offside across the whole width of the pitch.One bloke making a run from deep will put a stop to that tactic soon enough.
I still don't know why he was in that position. He wasn't going to be of any help there. Maybe the last guy in the wall of defender's.I am still shaking my head in despair at the penalty decision. Yes, I know why it was given - an exploitation to the minutest degree of a ridiculous interpretation of the law. Everyone knows it was crazy. Everyone knows that a forward running into the pen area to attack a cross is interfering with play and is offside when the ball is kicked, if he is not interfering with play wtf is he doing.
I can forgive Smith, all defenders do it many times in their careers, I certainly would not make him a scapegoat, and he had a pretty decent game as well.
Just very frustrating, in my view this kind of law/decision should have no part in football. It is offside pure and simple everything else should be irrelevant.
Smith or Schar?I still don't know why he was in that position. He wasn't going to be of any help there. Maybe the last guy in the wall of defender's.
Well said, and I’m pretty sure the opinion of most people (at least those who go to games). Just watched Dermot Gallagher’s attempt to explain it on Sky’s ref-watch too. Not only not convincing- completely wrong. Let’s hope we don’t need 2 points at Season’s end.I am still shaking my head in despair at the penalty decision. Yes, I know why it was given - an exploitation to the minutest degree of a ridiculous interpretation of the law. Everyone knows it was crazy. Everyone knows that a forward running into the pen area to attack a cross is interfering with play and is offside when the ball is kicked, if he is not interfering with play wtf is he doing.
I can forgive Smith, all defenders do it many times in their careers, I certainly would not make him a scapegoat, and he had a pretty decent game as well.
Just very frustrating, in my view this kind of law/decision should have no part in football. It is offside pure and simple everything else should be irrelevant.
He didn't, watch it again, his feet did not slip he was moving forward then realised he needed to move backwards and lost his balance and fell over backwards.Because he slipped...
What narrative is that Rob?Dont spoil the narrative.
Your view of the penalty incident?Hope everyone who travelled up had a good time, regardless of the result.
We're really struggling at the minute. No Pope and no Joelinton means the style that was so effective last season (and early in this one) just can't be used. This compromise we're using means we can still make chances, but we're so open at the back.
Anyone with a pacey winger (and everyone has a pacey winger) can get balls behind Dan Burn because he's not protected by Joelinton in front, nor Pope behind.
Honestly just written off this season now. We have no fit striker, only 3 fit midfielders, we're missing our first choice 'keeper. And that's likely the case for much of the remaining season. Hopefully we'll end up somewhere between 6th and 9th and next season we'll be a little less unfortunate when it comes to injuries and suspensions.
Probably a fair result in the end but a frustrating one for us with the penalty and late goal. Injuries have certainly cost you but it was an entertaining game. The Geordies were welcoming as usual in all the places we went to. Great city, good luck for the rest of the season and see you next year.Hope everyone who travelled up had a good time, regardless of the result.
We're really struggling at the minute. No Pope and no Joelinton means the style that was so effective last season (and early in this one) just can't be used. This compromise we're using means we can still make chances, but we're so open at the back.
Anyone with a pacey winger (and everyone has a pacey winger) can get balls behind Dan Burn because he's not protected by Joelinton in front, nor Pope behind.
Honestly just written off this season now. We have no fit striker, only 3 fit midfielders, we're missing our first choice 'keeper. And that's likely the case for much of the remaining season. Hopefully we'll end up somewhere between 6th and 9th and next season we'll be a little less unfortunate when it comes to injuries and suspensions.
It's a dumb law of the game. Schar may have been in a fractionally offside position, but Smith had a handful of his shirt which is a foul and Schar wasn't definitely interfering with play, yet.Your view of the penalty incident?
It was the different reactions to the decision.It's a dumb law of the game. Schar may have been in a fractionally offside position, but Smith had a handful of his shirt which is a foul and Schar wasn't definitely interfering with play, yet.
Say Smith doesn't foul Schar and the ball actually got through to Schar, then Schar is interfering with play from an offside position and you get a freekick.
I'd be aggrieved if it happened to us, but according to the laws of the game, the officials got this one right.
If the offside law was well written and made sense, there's no controversy around the penalty.
It was the different reactions to the decision.
Some thought it was a penalty others not.
Our manager still seemed bemused even after speaking to the referee.
Then they had that discussion with Dermot Gallagher, disagreement there.
Twelve times to be viewed by the referee, so he must have had doubt, plus he didn’t have a wide screen view.
As you say, probably like our fans are not happy about it, let alone our manager, if it was as you say on the other foot, not sure Eddie would have been happy with it. Be interesting now he might have seen it what his view would be.
Thanks for your point of view on the incident.
Yeah, not to get all Old Man Shouting at Clouds, but it used to be that the offside law was there to prevent a player getting an unfair advantage by posting up between defence and goalkeeper. I don't think having your big toe an inch ahead of the defender is an unfair advantage. It doesn't account for gait, stride length, or shoe size.
Did Schar gain an unfair advantage? Not for me, he was still in the melee.
And now you have arguments about phases of play, was the player interfering with play or not, it's a mess. So is the handball law.
The only reasonable thing to do is tear it all up, award us the League and Cup double and start the whole thing over. It's the only way to be sure.