Non - Brexit

Quite simple way of making people happy....the Scots and NI get Independence ..or Ireland becomes one. Kings and Queens optional.
England and Wales carry on as normal with the Welsh able to opt out also at some point if they wish. All can have fresh referendums for Brexit..individually, to have a clearer way forward...for that issue. Ha ha!
 
BillMcgarrycherry said:
Quite simple way of making people happy....the Scots and NI get Independence ..or Ireland becomes one. Kings and Queens optional.
England and Wales carry on as normal with the Welsh able to opt out also at some point if they wish. All can have fresh referendums for Brexit..individually, to have a clearer way forward...for that issue. Ha ha!
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I wanted to give Wales to Scotland as a leaving present
 
The Isis 'families' will be 'welcomed' here...by numerous Do Gooder groups.
Good ol Britain...at the forefront of compassion for all but our own!
We are building plenty of houses....3 bedroom 4 bedroom.....all kids in one room....1 or 2 spare rooms for stowing and assembling bomb making equipment....no prob! Just stick it in the Queens speech for clarification.
 
BillMcgarrycherry said:
The Isis 'families' will be 'welcomed' here...by numerous Do Gooder groups.
Good ol Britain...at the forefront of compassion for all but our own!
We are building plenty of houses....3 bedroom 4 bedroom.....all kids in one room....1 or 2 spare rooms for stowing and assembling bomb making equipment....no prob! Just stick it in the Queens speech for clarification.
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Have you applied for any Talk Radio vacancies?
 
RobTrent said:
Have you applied for any Talk Radio vacancies?
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Its tempting.....! ....probably a bit old for it now!
Some friends of mine have in the past urged me to put up for Council.....but other people cross the road to avoid me!
Ive mellowed a bit ..having been very left wing about 20/30 years back.
 
Found my first EU fresh item in the fridge , cherry tomatoes country of origin Spain, fortunately I am Brexit ready and sourced both UK & Morocco alternatives and there cheaper and there was me thinking food was going to be scarce and price increases.

I'm glad I did this little experiment cause it just makes you realise how little fresh fruit, veg and meat is actually from EU countries, Meat is nearly all British , Fruit & Veg is mainly UK interspersed with a few South American, North African counterparts for the more exotic. There was a time the UK couldn't produce many different types of fruit & veg especially out of season, But the Dorset Naga Chilli world's 2nd hottest chilli (but claimed top spot for a number of years) is a prime example of how things have changed , due to polytunnels and super greenhouses.

Todays Project fear from the BBC. What Brexit means for half-term holiday plans

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49974027

Yet the minds of many potential holidaymakers are somewhat scrambled by Brexit. The government's planned exit day is 31 October - the Thursday in the middle of some schools' autumn break.

Where have the BBC got these minds from..................................

"The concern is neatly summed up on the message board of parental chat room Mumsnet, where one post says: "I don't want to spend lots of money then stress the entire holiday about travelling back."

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

I enjoy a good laugh on a Monday Morning, but seriously is Project Fear that desperate, Mumsnet, I think everyone would agree if the BBC posted Bournemouth Vitals Forum as a source while still laughable it would still be more credible and that's saying something :ROFLMAO:.

It's a bit like quoting Druss or Jim's concerns and worries without quoting any of the other responses.

Jim posts "i'm worried about the school half term holiday cause of Brexit"

Derek responds "WTF Jim holidays won't be affected you idiot"
 
SilentWriting said:
I don't know I think the "very left" he mentions have there hardcore element often relying on civil disobedience, protests and violence, where as right wing is a mellowing from any side of extreme.

Socialism has changed considerably, or at least those that follow that way of thinking.

https://spiritofcontradiction.eu/vipper/2012/09/18/violence-and-socialism
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That was the most nonsensical post you've made! The "very right" are equally interested in using violence.
 
RobTrent said:
That was the most nonsensical post you've made! The "very right" are equally interested in using violence.
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Have I denied that, Bill says his views have changed from "Very Left" to right wing no mention of "Very Right"

The original response was to whether changing views from "Very Left" to right wing is mellowing and I would say yes for the reasons I stated.
 
SilentWriting said:
Have I denied that, Bill says his views have changed from "Very Left" to right wing no mention of "Very Right"

The original response was to whether changing views from "Very Left" to right wing is mellowing and I would say yes for the reasons I stated.
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Bill hasn't "mellowed", he's gone full-on right. ;-)
 
SilentWriting said:
Found my first EU fresh item in the fridge , cherry tomatoes country of origin Spain, fortunately I am Brexit ready and sourced both UK & Morocco alternatives and there cheaper and there was me thinking food was going to be scarce and price increases.

I'm glad I did this little experiment cause it just makes you realise how little fresh fruit, veg and meat is actually from EU countries, Meat is nearly all British , Fruit & Veg is mainly UK interspersed with a few South American, North African counterparts for the more exotic. There was a time the UK couldn't produce many different types of fruit & veg especially out of season, But the Dorset Naga Chilli world's 2nd hottest chilli (but claimed top spot for a number of years) is a prime example of how things have changed , due to polytunnels and super greenhouses.

Todays Project fear from the BBC. What Brexit means for half-term holiday plans

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-49974027

Yet the minds of many potential holidaymakers are somewhat scrambled by Brexit. The government's planned exit day is 31 October - the Thursday in the middle of some schools' autumn break.

Where have the BBC got these minds from..................................

"The concern is neatly summed up on the message board of parental chat room Mumsnet, where one post says: "I don't want to spend lots of money then stress the entire holiday about travelling back."

:rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl::rofl:

I enjoy a good laugh on a Monday Morning, but seriously is Project Fear that desperate, Mumsnet, I think everyone would agree if the BBC posted Bournemouth Vitals Forum as a source while still laughable it would still be more credible and that's saying something :ROFLMAO:.

It's a bit like quoting Druss or Jim's concerns and worries without quoting any of the other responses.

Jim posts "i'm worried about the school half term holiday cause of Brexit"

Derek responds "WTF Jim holidays won't be affected you idiot"
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Hows that hypocrisy of yours going? Still cant decide what b0llocks to believe today?
 
Druss_the_Legend said:
Hows that hypocrisy of yours going? Still cant decide what b0llocks to believe today?
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Pop over to Mumsnet seems that's where it's at these days, if you wan't intellectual stimuli and latest market and fiscal predictions post-Brexit.

Expect it's jam packed with those that voted remain cause they thought leaving the EU would mean they couldn't go on holiday to Spain anymore. :hmmm:

Come on even the Remainers must think it's desperate to quote a Mumsnet forum thread about half term holidays, to find a headline for the BBC's daily Brexit scaremongering.
 
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Re ID for voting at Polling stations, the Electoral Commission has been advising in favour of it for years. Tories may figure it has a small gain in their favour, but they are literally implementing a recommendation from the independent regulator. For example here's a 2015 study they conducted:
https://electoralcommission.org.uk/...le/Understanding-Electoral-Fraud-Jan-2015.pdf

You need some ID to do all sorts of trivial things, buying stuff from shop or collecting a package from the post office. So it doesn't seem out of the question to require it for something serious like casting a vote.

However, it's also worth bearing in mind that compulsory ID to vote is just a step away from a compulsory national ID scheme. If you are in favour of one, you need to ensure you're in favour of the other. And I'm not sure about that.

Additionally, I doubt that statistically significant numbers of people are going into polling stations to cast potentially ineligible votes in person. Why do that when there's the postal vote system? And that's a different and difficult kettle of fish.
 
SilentWriting said:
Pop over to Mumsnet seems that's where it's at these days, if you wan't intellectual stimuli and latest market and fiscal predictions post-Brexit.

Expect it's jam packed with those that voted remain cause they thought leaving the EU would mean they couldn't go on holiday to Spain anymore. :hmmm:
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Still not replied to my post where I called you out on it. Predicts we may have EU army but ... also Silent ' "May" and "Could" are words i'm not interested in '.

So what that actually means is that you only believe what you pick and choose what you want to believe and everything that doesn't fit your right wing narrative is project fear. Best leave again Pogo.
 
I think the subject of an EU army was already covered so felt no need to reply yet again it is no secret that both Merkel & Macron are in favour of an EU army, while we already co-operate at military level, both on intel, training & deployment, an EU Army is a whole different ball game we already have NATO there is no need for an EU military machine and certainly not of Merkel or Macrons making.

https://www.politico.eu/article/angela-merkel-emmanuel-macron-eu-army-to-complement-nato/

There you go happy now and no I won't be silenced because of your fantasised ideas about whoever this pogo is or was, no wonder it's the same posters over and over on here, you put new posters off, well I've got a bit more resolve, according to other forum users this is a common tactic to accuse anyone who opposes some of your views to be multiple account makers, well sorry I've one account, I've got a voice and I won't shut up cause someone that's posted more threads than me can bully opposing views to his/hers. I think it's clear already on this thread very few budge from both sides in the I'm right your wrong way of thinking but a few here seem to take it to the extreme,
 
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wellsworld said:
I've never heard shifting from socialism to right-wing views described as mellowing! interesting
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What is ' interesting' is how any poster on this forum is expected to have rigid polarised views one way or the other with no room for flexibility... precisely reflecting why the Nation is in the Impasse mess regarding Brexit!
Ive spent all week arguing with my right-wing thinking missus about the Extinction Protests....me supporting it.....her saying they should be jailed! Awkward ...but I daresay also reflects similar in other households!
I cant under any circumstances see how extreme right wing attitudes can benefit the nation.. it just rails against how the planet is evolving generally..... and going too far to the left can bring much dysfunctiality.
Somewhere in the middle has to be the ultimate breeding ground for progress ..surely.
A total winding in of many necks required ...mine too on some issues!
 
SilentWriting said:
Pop over to Mumsnet seems that's where it's at these days, if you wan't intellectual stimuli and latest market and fiscal predictions post-Brexit.

Expect it's jam packed with those that voted remain cause they thought leaving the EU would mean they couldn't go on holiday to Spain anymore. :hmmm:

Come on even the Remainers must think it's desperate to quote a Mumsnet forum thread about half term holidays, to find a headline for the BBC's daily Brexit scaremongering.
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Good to see you being condescending towards a considerable section of the population. ;-)
 
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