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Charlie Daniels is looking forward to the new stadium and trading facilities.
The first news from a proper source in months and if he thinks he may be part of it then who knows ......
Charlie Daniels is looking forward to the new stadium and trading facilities.
Why does it have to be one or the other? Its better to be larger with fans than smaller.The size of the ground, we all want to see built, will always be contentious, and is/has been/will be perhaps one of the biggest sticking points in its design... Trying to assess the demand for seats...
We can all spout 20k, 25k 30k etc. on here but the facts are what the club will need to 'largely' base their decision on, and the facts show that we don't warrant anything larger than maybe 20k, at a push.
If you want to gamble on the conurbation, and lets not forget the football tourists etc. then 25k is the absolute limit IMO, but week in-week out, I would have thought we could regularly achieve 15-17k max, and that's with upping the away attendance to a possible 3k. I just don't feel we have the people here that are bothered about us, or footbal in general.... and this isn't a bad thing... I don't give 2 sh*ts that we've got a piss poor following, in relation others...
We're never going to be huge, and I still sometimes travel to certain grounds, having had to park miles away, walk forever, be miles away from the pitch with zero atmosphere, and worse of all, spend an age to get home form the ground again... and I actually think to myself how great the current DC is...
Better to be smaller, with packed 'fans' than huge, with tourists, randoms and shocking atmospheres... IMO of course
Sure but all this talk of 25k gates is based on nothing more than fans having a reckon. The people who are expected to invest actual money in it will have proper market research and don't seem to fancy it. Plenty of evidence to suggest that our level of support isn't quite what people claim - including actual championship attendances, half-full cup games and the tickets on sale at 1 point as we speak.
Case in point, West Ham.
Went from 35k to nearly 60k. Crappy old club overshadowed by bigger teams like Spurs, Arsenal and Chelsea (the kids in London all seem to support the bigger teams on the whole with a few white working class kids supporting West Ham. Maybe 1 in 100 at most in the school I worked in).
Weirdly, their main market seems to be those who live in Essex. LOADS of people from Essex bought season tickets. They were even promised it would be easier to get to than upton park as the train station is at Stratford but as we all know, the trains are donald-ducked every weekend so they still have to drive.
Anyway, despite their ground and their team being awful, they still sell a ****-ton of season tickets so why wouldn't we?
Denim not Demin!Er, hi Max...
My daughter just got one for Everton (ex ST holder pre university but low points now as uses other people’s tickets) - had assumed they were sold out so didn’t bother looking. I think a lot of people on low points don’t check as they assume all games are sell outs.
They have popcorn ;-)Case in point, West Ham.
Went from 35k to nearly 60k. Crappy old club overshadowed by bigger teams like Spurs, Arsenal and Chelsea (the kids in London all seem to support the bigger teams on the whole with a few white working class kids supporting West Ham. Maybe 1 in 100 at most in the school I worked in).
Weirdly, their main market seems to be those who live in Essex. LOADS of people from Essex bought season tickets. They were even promised it would be easier to get to than upton park as the train station is at Stratford but as we all know, the trains are donald-ducked every weekend so they still have to drive.
Anyway, despite their ground and their team being awful, they still sell a ****-ton of season tickets so why wouldn't we?
They also have giant f@ck off hotdogs!They have popcorn ;-)
Absolute rubbish in comparison to Hartlepool though.They also have giant f@ck off hotdogs!
The fact is know one knows and one the surveys your suggesting won't help but given our relatively large conurbation, as suggested by the club 22 - 25k will be ok. I agree we will not fill it to start with except for the bigger teams but there's no reason we can't match the likes of Cardiff, Watford, Huddersfield and Burnley long term.Sure but all this talk of 25k gates is based on nothing more than fans having a reckon. The people who are expected to invest actual money in it will have proper market research and don't seem to fancy it. Plenty of evidence to suggest that our level of support isn't quite what people claim - including actual championship attendances, half-full cup games and the tickets on sale at 1 point as we speak.