ST’s - average 9.7% increase

Neil Dawson said:
You’ve gone full circle in the same thread. You were slagging the decision off at the start. Is your new back up plan in case nobody argues with you to argue with yourself?
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I've not slated the decision to increase prices I've slated the duplicitous way they have gone about pricing and announcing it. It is not a 9.7% increase it is more than that so why couldn't they just be honest? They are not Ryanair.
 
CherryBare said:
So bill also not involved? Are you unhappy with the increase after 8 years?
You must be impressed with the training ground that Blakes overseeing
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I’m struggling with this a bit.

If some fans on here are to be believed… The CEO has nothing to do with match day income and pricing, he didn’t choose the manager (well, until he became successful then some of them reversed that view) he has no influence on the running of the ticket office or website and he doesn’t choose who we sign.

That may well be true. None of us really know as Del always points out. If that is true though what exactly does he do?
 
Neil Dawson said:
I’m struggling with this a bit.

If some fans on here are to be believed… The CEO has nothing to do with match day income and pricing, he didn’t choose the manager (well, until he became successful then some of them reversed that view) he has no influence on the running of the ticket office or website and he doesn’t choose who we sign.

That may well be true. None of us really know as Del always points out. If that is true though what exactly does he do?
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You know all this is his fault though do you? Do you reckon there anyone else on the planet otjer than you who that thinks Neill Blake has suddenly decided to put season ticket prices up after eight years?
 
Well, looking at the new prices, my ticket in the family stand appears to have gone up from £345 to £675 (main stand outer) and my son's from £70 to £124!
With the compulsory purchase of the 2 women's tickets, that's 100% increase (if my maths is right)
I really hope I have missed something or they haven't released the family stand prices yet?
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fgh76 said:
Well, looking at the new prices, my ticket in the family stand appears to have gone up from £345 to £675 (main stand outer) and my son's from £70 to £124!
With the compulsory purchase of the 2 women's tickets, that's 100% increase (if my maths is right)
I really hope I have missed something or they haven't released the family stand prices yet?
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Looking at the Echo site which has new and previous prices, the difference for an adult Main Outer was £625 and now gone up to £675.
 
Red_till_im_ded said:
It's not exactly going to break the bank but I imt see how an increase was necessary. Our capacity is so small the extra income will make next to sod all difference to the income of the club. Another season in the PL and they've just banked another £140m. It just seems like they're jumping the current trend of increasing prices because everywhere else is. I doubt it will even pay the directors end of season bonus's. Like I said it's only £54 but strikes me as greed unless I'm going to get something in return for it next season that I didn't this season .
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It’s just weird. It raises 300k apparently. If we need the money that bad we’ve waved goodbye to 6m by tossing it off the last three games. Or our CEO could take a paycut from 2m to 1.7m still be paid more than pretty much every other PL top dog.

I get the price freeze, which was always a reflection of how little our attendance meant vs the tv money, has gone on a long time. I’m just not sure, as we’ve ascertained we don’t need that 300k, that a cost of living crisis is the time to ask people to pay for two women’s matches when we are all free to go watch a woman’s match when we want. Small price rise on tickets for matches you are going to see I kind of get although again this revenue could be got quicker elsewhere.

Im not surprised the usual few disagree with me but I would be surprised if more of the fan base don’t think like me.
 
Neil Dawson said:
Well my family and friends looking at our WhatsApp groups
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I'm going to guess you havent tried influencing/brainwashing the group into you views on Blake and Hughes in that group? : D

Loving the Blake angles being worked into various threads. Not that it's unreasonable linking him to price increase, even though unlikely it was anything/much to do with him, and more likely our new man Jim.

Quite amusing watching yiu and SDD slug it out over and over, in every second thread... at least for me and my demented sense of humour anyway:D

I think Blake will be marginalised and if not put of post by new year, next summer, or even this Sumner... I'd be surprised if he's still operating by then in any capacity.

He's had a good run, but Foley will want his own man imo.
 
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MB1980 said:
I'm going to guess you havent tried influencing/brainwashing the group into you views on Blake and Hughes in that group? : D

Loving the Blake angles being worked into various threads. Not that it's unreasonable linking him to price increase, even though unlikely it was anything/much to do with him, and more likely our new man Jim.

Quite amusing watching yiu and SDD slug it out over and over, in every second thread... at least for me and my demented sense of humour anyway:D

I think Blake will be marginalised and if not put of post by new year, next summer, or even this Sumner... I'd be surprised if he's still operating by then in any capacity.

He's had a good run, but Foley will want his own man imo.
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Surely he's already undermined by Frevola's arrival as it is. The idea Blake gets paid so much never really made sense to me anyway. If it was him that was getting paid that much you can't think that will continue under the new owner. Not that I give a toss what the bloke gets paid or whether he works at the club full stop tbf.
 
SlowDownDerek said:
Surely he's already undermined by Frevola's arrival as it is. The idea Blake gets paid so much never really made sense to me anyway. If it was him that was getting paid that much you can't think that will continue under the new owner. Not that I give a toss what the bloke gets paid or whether he works at the club full stop tbf.
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Yeah I'm similar outlook to you about the board, as in don;t really give a sh1t as long as club overall doing ok and no glaring issues.

Of course most will come under scrutiny following a takeover, particularly upper mgmt positions... and those commanding a very generous package, in comparison to market rate and similar capacities at other clubs, even more so. If he is being paid more than directors at other clubs, unless he can demonstrate the ability to deliver exceptional value, imo you have to arrive at conclusion he won't survive the scrutiny from new owners (who just happen to be ambitious, experienced, switched on, successful, rich americans of all things...)

If he's till here in a year, I can only imagine that he actually happens to be an extremely competent Chief Exec.

My main concern was the managerial appointment stuff, beginning with Tindall, but even they have somewhat mitigating circumstances around them. And that's without considering that we don;t know everything around most situations at the club, stuff that would no doubt add further context to scenarios on here.

So a lot of the time its 2+2+posters general feeling/bias about person/topic at hand=5 for one person and 6 for another kind of stuff. The answer being 5.5, and even that's open to interpretation..

Some people used to be determined (and no doubt some still do) to go through club accounts, or hunt around for anything involving people at the club. Each to their own, certainly not something I've ever remotely considered or been interested in doing, but there you go.
 
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Blackburn Rovers (when they were in the PL) kept prices very low for the exact same reasons cited here - that with the TV money, they didn't need the cash. Then they got relegated, the TV money stopped coming in, and they had to bump up the prices for a lower standard of football. That's a lot of the reason why they don't get 10,000 for some games.

(Mind you, the price of your tickets is a bit frightening. £600+ for the cheapest adult tickets? Wow.)
 
It seems like $50 a game is pretty good value, but I don't have context. What would a team like Newcastle charge for 19 games?
 
dsr-burnley said:
Blackburn Rovers (when they were in the PL) kept prices very low for the exact same reasons cited here - that with the TV money, they didn't need the cash. Then they got relegated, the TV money stopped coming in, and they had to bump up the prices for a lower standard of football. That's a lot of the reason why they don't get 10,000 for some games.

(Mind you, the price of your tickets is a bit frightening. £600+ for the cheapest adult tickets? Wow.)
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Only 10k ground - not that I expect they'll offer cheaper tickets at a new bigger stadium if/when that arrives. We'll have no problem selling 10k season tickets right now. Even at 700 to 800 imo. But may start losing genuine fans in place of more affluent people who don;t like football or bmouth but their kids somewhat do, or stuff like that

Must be tipping point and thats where you hope for competent people making the decisions. As in, surely must be better in many scenarios to get more bums on seats, more people into local club bug and therefore long term gains - they'll buy crap in shop, new kits each year, indoctrinate kids when they come along etc.

To me, Blackburn barely getting 10k in 30k stadium some weeks, says to me they're overcharging. Surely would be better to slightly reduce tickets, across board, perhaps very low price for kids, emergency workeers etc. Just to get place somewhat buzzing and surely they'd like, or good % would get bug and spend much more over long term?? I can't see how a ground not a 3rd full but slightly higher ticket price is a better solution??? Unless you're a miserable rich f***er who doesn;t like people and just wants to sit in his box watching his team have yet another decent to mediocre season.

I heard years ago how some exec said something like actually they'd rather have less fans, but paying more as means less idiots, and therefore police, catering costs, can close blocks of seats down and other costs that come with dealing with larger crowds. Not sure if they're PL or not.

To me, as a layman of course, I'd rather have good atmoshphere, getting as many people in from community as possible. Partiuclarly as if you go down divisions, you want bigger, more solid core of fans, rather than ending up with 3k paying miserably high amounts in a big 20k plus stadium.
 
Kenya Cherrie said:
Pay up or shut up, easy really.
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I don't think I see anyone really objecting to the £14. The issue is they've obviously broken it down this way to stay out the headlines by advertising an under 10% increase, when it is in fact over 10%. 9.7% is a lie, simple as that. Hopefully when the press do their breakdowns they don't fall for it.
 
Silent AFCB said:
I don't think I see anyone really objecting to the £14. The issue is they've obviously broken it down this way to stay out the headlines by advertising an under 10% increase, when it is in fact over 10%. 9.7% is a lie, simple as that. Hopefully when the press do their breakdowns they don't fall for it.
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Indeed, when the articles are written to compare prices like the one listed above, the additional £14 won’t be included in the tables.

Neither will the £3 “fulfilment fee” be included even though we are reusing the cards already issued for the current season.

That said. Other clubs may also use similar tactics with their price structures which we won’t be aware of either.
 
On the whole discussion point of the women games I think the club have failed to read the room.

Firstly, it’s great that there will be two games at Dean Court next season. They need to be daytime games though not evening, for the kids.

Its also great to incentivise these games for people to get home points for the mens games.

But season ticket holders don’t need that incentive to purchase tickets, as they are season ticket holders.

Those who want to go, go. They don’t need to be coerced into supporting.

My family have attended both games, but we’ve attended with my boys school friends and their families. We’ve moved seats and enjoy a different “experience”. The families we attend with are not regular football goers. But ones we’ve encouraged to go and spend a couple of hours together. Some catch the bug and show more of an interest in afcb, others don’t.

We now seemingly can’t do this. Which probably means the other families don’t bother to go at all.

Just seems a shame.
 
Neil Dawson said:
I’m struggling with this a bit.

If some fans on here are to be believed… The CEO has nothing to do with match day income and pricing, he didn’t choose the manager (well, until he became successful then some of them reversed that view) he has no influence on the running of the ticket office or website and he doesn’t choose who we sign.

That may well be true. None of us really know as Del always points out. If that is true though what exactly does he do?
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My point is if you are going to blame him for everything that is negative about the club, then you have to give him credit for all the many positive things. Your argument is very one sided , so he's not responsible for the training ground, the improvements in the stadium, the transfer of the club to foley?
 
Neil Dawson said:
It’s just weird. It raises 300k apparently. If we need the money that bad we’ve waved goodbye to 6m by tossing it off the last three games.
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Because it isn't 300k. It's 300k of repeat revenue which can be budgeted for ongoing, unlike prize money. Then factor in their longer term ticket price plan. Let's say the increments they have in mind by the time a new stadium is ready in, for example, four years time will take that extra 300k to an extra £1m. With double the capacity with the new stadium that's then £2m. Not small beans.

Add in we've told sponsors we want double what they were paying before, and I expect they should be prepared those prices will also continue to rise. We're doubling the restaurant space. Big new bar areas hinted at for us proles. And lots more.

The clear idea is to get increases across all areas of the business and suddenly we've added £10m+ to our repeat revenue budget. For a club our size that's huge.

Cost of living crises or not, buckle up because they're about to commercialise the **************** out of us over the next few years.

People wanted a more professionally run club. We're going to get it but we're also going to pay for it.
 
I wonder if the Unsolicited Goods Act is applicable to being “forced” to buy tickets for the ladies matches?
 
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